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[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 53 points 6 days ago (35 children)

Snap should be reason enough that everyone should abandon Ubuntu, especially when Mint is right there. The last thing we need is to make Linux more like Android+Google Play.

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[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Linux Mint Debian edition! πŸ’ͺ

[–] Zink@programming.dev 6 points 6 days ago (7 children)

The regular version uses a lot of Ubuntu resources but doesn’t have snaps either.

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[–] stebator@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

They are good distros for beginners. But over time some people switch to Arch-based systems or NixOS. Because of HUGE software list that you can install without much hassle, you don't have to add 3-rd party repositories or PPAs or figure out how to install .tar.gz package in your system or how to compile from source. You just type one command to install something hard to obtain in other distros.

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[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I used to use Ubuntu in the past, and it wasn't Unity, Upstart, Bazaar, Mir, Launchpad, Snap, Amazon ads integration etc. that convinced me to look elsewhere, it was that I found out how other, not commercial distributions, integrated and instrumented its user base into their development.

Instead of having to sign a CLAs when contributing and signing your right away to some corporation, you become part of the community. (Update: It seems they have switched from their Copyright assignment, so something not as invasive in 2011, which is good. But they still require you to sign a CLA.)

So always look who is developing the distribution first, are they individuals or is it one company. And don't let yourself be bated into the dependency of one company, because then you will be the victim of enshittyfication eventually.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Been my experience that ubuntu tries harder to be a windows replacement

[–] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

except that awful default UI

[–] rockstarmode@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I see a lot of references to Ubuntu being filled with ads or scaring people into buying their services, but I've been daily driving it for over 15 years on personal desktops and servers and never noticed that. What have I missed?

I never saw the Amazon ad stuff, I hear it was a referral link?

Last I checked Ubuntu Pro is free for personal use on up to 5 machines.

I use apt to manage all my packages and upgrades, including dist-upgrade, maybe that's why I've never noticed snap? Why does snap suck?

[–] erev@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Snaps are a closed-source proprietary packaging format that Canonical controls. And they have also altered apt on Ubuntu to download snaps first before native packages. You may be using snaps right now without realizing it, which is also part of the issue.

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Last I checked Ubuntu Pro is free for personal use on up to 5 machines.

It's not free. It's traded for your personal information.

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