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What factors do you think contributed to the "Reddit Hivemind"? How do you believe it can be avoided? (lemmy.ml)
submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by Cataphract@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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I've been seeing more often (and others have posted the same) that some of the elements of "Reddit etiquette" seem to be taking over here. Luckily I can still find discussion comments but it seems the jokes and general "downvote because I disagree" are slowly taking over.

So the question becomes is it the size or the functionality of the site? The people or popularity? What's your thoughts?

edit: should I change it to Lemmy-hivemind? Exhibit A: the amount of downvotes without a single explanation (guessing it's anything to do with Reddit being talked about).

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[–] saddlebag@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Gamifying the voting incentivises people to make low quality posts and comments. That’s why Reddit is now basically just rage bait fake stories with comment chains that all look exactly the same. And now it’s all just ai generated anyway.

I sometimes visit and read the AITAH type stories and I’m dumbfounded that people can believe or enjoy reading them. All the subtleties and nuances of the early days are gone and it’s a race to who can karma farm the hardest.

The other thing that made Reddit great in early days were the small communities being visible on the front page. It made the content varied and there were different types of posting hitting front page. I think Lemmy is struggling with this because politics is just so loud that we don’t have enough volume of other content being made.

[–] Lemmeenym@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Using scaled sorting really helps with getting smaller communities on the front page. I still see the political and news communities but I also see communities for cities and niche hobbies.

[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The universal problem is that there’s no shared definition of what a downvote represents. Is it “this is spam and should be removed”? “I don’t like this”? “This doesn’t belong here”? “I want to see less of this”? “I disagree”?

That’s not even a Reddit problem - it’s innate to any social media voting apparatus. Extend it to Facebook, even. Does the laugh reaction mean I’m laughing with you or at you?

Most comments and posts I’ve downvoted have been because I accidentally swiped too far right and my upvote changed to the downvote action and I didn’t even notice. So those downvotes don’t even mean anything!

I think the right answer is to stop worrying about votes. Even if they all mean the same thing they’re still meaningless. It’s better to change your post and comment sorting setting than to try to social engineer a way out of it.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Reddiquette says

Vote. If you think something contributes to conversation, upvote it. If you think it does not contribute to the subreddit it is posted in or is off-topic in a particular community, downvote it.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

If people followed that there would be no problem.

Unfortunately, the downvote button is mostly used as an "I disagree" / "I don't like your opinion" button.

Vice versa, I think Reddit upvoted a lot of the same old boring memes/jokes with the idea that maybe they would benefit if they get there first then next time.

Any post related to WWII, Top comment: "I did nazi that coming" 10,000 upvotes.

It's not that bad on Lemmy but I have noticed an up tick in non helpful very unoriginal jokes in threads with serious topics.

[–] Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

Most comments and posts I’ve downvoted have been because I accidentally swiped too far right and my upvote changed to the downvote action and I didn’t even notice.

I actually changed it so that if I swipe too far it saves the post/comment and to downvote I have to swipe too far the other side to downvote. I think that makes more sense

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

If users were able to migrate their accounts that could help against centralization

[–] gomp@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What is that you care to preserve? Can't you just register a new account and kill the old one? (genuinely curious)

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Many users have stated they would like to keep their comment history and subscriptions. Move their account to a different instance. Having to start from scratch is a big hassle.

The fediverse concept is great but users are locked into the instance they create their accounts on. With so many instances it is better to just start somewhere and figure out what's what later.

So far I am happy with my instance. But if I ever change my mind it would help if migration was simple.