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Showerthoughts

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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The best ones are thoughts that many people can relate to and they find something funny or interesting in regular stuff.

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Third parties are mathematically impossible until we ditch first past the post voting:

https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo

We need our vote to be a list, not a checkbox.

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[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (8 children)

If only there was some kind of proven road map where countries who has been dominated by their ruling elite using the two party trick went on to form a kind of labour movement that forced a third choice on the ruling class....

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[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

American shower thoughts

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

You'd need to grow the third party / greens by having them become a viable party in local elections and state elections first. The greens have failed to do that. Which means they have no chance except to spoil the election.

[–] a9cx34udP4ZZ0@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (11 children)

"Why would I vote for a primary party candidate who supports ranked choice voting when I can just throw my vote away on a third-party candidate that will never be elected? I've got principles!"

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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

We need to demand approval choice voting. Every time we hear anything about third parties in this country, we need to use it as a launch pad to tall about approval choice voting

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

No, no, THIS time protest-voting to allow fascism will work to usher in a real left-wing movement in this country, promise! /s

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[–] index@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The parties are already there or you couldn't vote them, this example is stupid. Supporting parties with blood in their hands is endorsing evil.

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (6 children)

You know Democrats are cooked when they start attacking third party voters instead of Trump voters.

Especially now people really start paying attention to the third parties.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Note: Linkerbean is a republican pretending to be left leaning, here just to dissuade left-leaning folk from voting dem.

I said so to them a while back and their reply, since deleted, was "Cope." https://lemmy.world/comment/12097015

Downvote and move on, but you'll get only nonsense if you engage.

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[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Insane levels of cope from the party that's suing states to remove the "unviable" third parties to protect their genocide candidate's chances at beating someone who is literally incapable of forming basic sentences

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (5 children)

There will never be an acceptable time to vote third party according to liberals. Unless you're fine with an infinite state of groveling towards people in power. If we can't even push them left on genocide when it could cost the election, we can't move them left on anything. The status quo is fine for people who have the resources to deal with it and people not effected by Police brutality and other negative effects.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (5 children)

768 votes wth is wrong with Americans bruh

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Tehreek-e-Insaf

If you can create a successful grassroots political party in an environment where your party members and constituents are constantly attacked, murdered, bombed, jailed, tortured, votes faked, votes destroyed, and vote miscounts, you can definitely pull it off in the USA.

It took Pakistan only 20 years to cause a collapse of their corrupt 2 party system and challenge the military dictatorship. People never believed PTI would mount any sort of challenge, but they did by building a solid populist movement, despite facing all of the above.

The "you must vote the lesser evil" is a fallacy that both parties in the USA perpetuate in an attempt to convince you to believe 3rd party voting is a waste of time.

You can't just sit back and complain about the rigged system like "but muh first past the poll voting" as if either Democrats or Republicans will change the system in any way to make it easier for their rivals.

This is exactly why I dislike the Democratic party in particular so much. They are a corporate monolith that pretends to care about your leftist demands by handing out pennies worth of change to get your vote, then the second they refuse to actually significantly change something you demand, they have the audacity to blame you, the voter, for not sucking up to their shitty policies when they inevitably lose the election.

Current case in point: "There is no genocide in Gaza, and we believe we can win without our constituents because our opponent is a mentally insane baby ".

Shittiest take on this community by far.

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[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago (10 children)

lemmy.world going hard against third parties over the past few days, what has spooked them?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (6 children)

They support a genocidal cop as their presidential candidate.

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