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My thoughts: this was not an accident. This was testing the waters.

I wonder what the person who absolutely insisted to me yesterday that this wasn't about black people in general would have to say about this...

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 138 points 1 day ago (8 children)

If it's in your regular enough vocabulary to "come out accidentally" you are a racist.

You also can't 'unsay' a racial slur as much as my ex can't 'unfuck' someone.

What's also neat is that it also shows one's intelligence. If you give him a pass "oh he said he was sorry" you're a racist AND dumb.

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago

(...) you're a racist AND dumb.

To a large extent you're racist because you're dumb.

For the last few months they've traded their dog whistles for blow horns. More and more hatred is being normalized.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 114 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"I didn't say anything of the sort (unless the audience liked it)"

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's exactly what happened in my opinion.

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[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even if this was just an "innocent" slip up it's not like what he said wouldn't have been racist otherwise. The dude is defending the false claims about Haitian immigrants. It's still racist.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can a white guy slip up and use the n word? Not sure that's a slip up.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It never is. People don't "slip up" that way unless they use it all the time when in private.

[–] UmeU@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Really sounds like it starts with an N and not an M so I don’t buy the mispronunciation story.

Also there is the fact that neither immigrants nor migrants ends in ‘gger’

He prolly had a bet with a friend that he would slip in an N word.

[–] Avatar_of_Self@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I saw the dumb defender say he was conflating immigrant and migrant but I replayed that part a dozen times. It really, really sounds like an 'N' as the first letter. It definitely was not him beginning to pronounce 'immgr'. You can plainly hear it.

But even if we gave him the benefit of the doubt, the fact that Megyn Kelly completely ignored it and the fact that he didn't apologize immediately and explain it says volumes about both of them. Why didn't Kelly even say anything? Maybe she's so used to hearing it in her circles, maybe even saying it, that it didn't even register as something unusual to her and she didn't notice it.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It seems seems dubious to me too. But the 'gr' in migrants would sound roughly the same as 'gger.' The problem is... well. He seems to start it with an 'n' and then also mis-inflects the 'i'?

It would be like trying to say 'clickable' and instead saying 'slacker.'

Mad sus.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

My thoughts: this was not an accident. This was testing the waters.

The staff at the National Review have always been neo-confederate trash and I have no trouble believing Lowry simply uses this word on such a routine basis that it slipped out during an interview with another arch-conservative media figure.

These folks are racists and it shouldn't be seen as surprising when they show all the symptoms of a bigoted mind.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“Guys the party switch is a myth we’re the party that abolished slavery”

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Even during the Reconstruction Era, Indiana was both staunchly Republican and full of the KKK. And there was no shortage of racism irrespective of party in Congress during the height of the Civil War. The myth is that the Radical Republicans of the 1860s and 70s represented the party population as a whole, rather than a vocal minority within an ascendant movement that managed to squeeze in a few good reforms before Hayes sold it all down the river.

Republicans barely abolished slavery even with half the country in Time-Out. And they were crucified for it in elections to come.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I wondered if this might turn out to be somebody reading something into something, but Nope, he said it clear as a bell. You don't accidentally say that unless you're thinking it. This is obviously a word this guy uses frequently, and he even seems proud of himself for it.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, sometimes there's something else outside could have been saying but not here.

Here it's clear as day. And the host says nothing at all, which says a ton about her.

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Okay I didn't watch the video until looking at your link and saw the whole "he started saying migrant wrong" bullshit and was like, "okay maybe that is what happened.". No, this dude straight throws a hard r n word out casually, unmistakable as anything else.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

That was so fucking purposeful. Wow.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

Non-Meta Link

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[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lmao, whose down voting you? It's a direct link to the video!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People downvote the weirdest shit.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"threads.net" = downvote, I reckon

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[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago

In other words, an editor of a magazine that explicitly advocated for white supremacy in the 50's and 60's let the mask they've since put on slip for a second

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I meant an accident in the sense of "I said something racist out loud when I meant to only say it in my head." But I don't think that was the case here.

[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

They hide behind “its only racism when im actively in the process of saying the n word out loud” but now i guess even that get’s an asterisk

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[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think it was an accident. And this fuck uses the word too much.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well it's some very interesting timing for such an accident.

[–] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I changed my mind after putting in earphones and listening to it more clearly

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 day ago

Haitian mig-r? Lol. Clearly the man is too used to saying the N word off public broadcast.

[–] Naja_Kaouthia@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

That, uh, was definitely a hard ‘r’ there. Jesus Christ.

[–] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I don't sympathize with this dudes rhetoric at all, just adding that from his mouth movements he does seem to be making an "m" sound not an "n" sound with his mouth.

He's probably still really racist, but I've got racist family and if they ever decide to drop a "hard r" you can see it in their face. I do think it was a case of trying to say "immigrants", flubbing it, then just saying "migrants" because he realizes what it sounds like. Even the forced laughter afterwards has a sort of "oh shit that didn't sound good" vibe to it.

Again, not defending this guy. But we have to remember, all sides of politics can spin stuff to fit their agenda, so we have to be discreet in our decisions and judgements, that's how we stand apart from all the people just sucking down the news as gospel truth.

[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

"... calling in about Haitian [Full-ass-hard-R-N-words] I mean migrants." No you don't.

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