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My thoughts: this was not an accident. This was testing the waters.

I wonder what the person who absolutely insisted to me yesterday that this wasn't about black people in general would have to say about this...

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 139 points 1 month ago (8 children)

If it's in your regular enough vocabulary to "come out accidentally" you are a racist.

You also can't 'unsay' a racial slur as much as my ex can't 'unfuck' someone.

What's also neat is that it also shows one's intelligence. If you give him a pass "oh he said he was sorry" you're a racist AND dumb.

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago

(...) you're a racist AND dumb.

To a large extent you're racist because you're dumb.

For the last few months they've traded their dog whistles for blow horns. More and more hatred is being normalized.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 115 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"I didn't say anything of the sort (unless the audience liked it)"

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's exactly what happened in my opinion.

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[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 61 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Okay I didn't watch the video until looking at your link and saw the whole "he started saying migrant wrong" bullshit and was like, "okay maybe that is what happened.". No, this dude straight throws a hard r n word out casually, unmistakable as anything else.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

That was so fucking purposeful. Wow.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

Non-Meta Link

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[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lmao, whose down voting you? It's a direct link to the video!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People downvote the weirdest shit.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"threads.net" = downvote, I reckon

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 55 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I meant an accident in the sense of "I said something racist out loud when I meant to only say it in my head." But I don't think that was the case here.

[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

They hide behind “its only racism when im actively in the process of saying the n word out loud” but now i guess even that get’s an asterisk

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago

In other words, an editor of a magazine that explicitly advocated for white supremacy in the 50's and 60's let the mask they've since put on slip for a second

[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think it was an accident. And this fuck uses the word too much.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well it's some very interesting timing for such an accident.

[–] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I changed my mind after putting in earphones and listening to it more clearly

[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The video also looks like he's making an M sound (closed lips) than an N sound (open lips). Grammatically, I also don't think including "Haitian" makes sense if the next word is a slur.

I'm all for calling out the actual content on the conversation as the absolute nonsense that it is, but this specific headline seems like a bit of a reach.

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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Agree. It sounded like two words got fucked up and old reliably came out instead. Either way, Fuck that guy.

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“Guys the party switch is a myth we’re the party that abolished slavery”

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Even during the Reconstruction Era, Indiana was both staunchly Republican and full of the KKK. And there was no shortage of racism irrespective of party in Congress during the height of the Civil War. The myth is that the Radical Republicans of the 1860s and 70s represented the party population as a whole, rather than a vocal minority within an ascendant movement that managed to squeeze in a few good reforms before Hayes sold it all down the river.

Republicans barely abolished slavery even with half the country in Time-Out. And they were crucified for it in elections to come.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Even if this was just an "innocent" slip up it's not like what he said wouldn't have been racist otherwise. The dude is defending the false claims about Haitian immigrants. It's still racist.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can a white guy slip up and use the n word? Not sure that's a slip up.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It never is. People don't "slip up" that way unless they use it all the time when in private.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago
[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 month ago

Haitian mig-r? Lol. Clearly the man is too used to saying the N word off public broadcast.

[–] Naja_Kaouthia@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

That, uh, was definitely a hard ‘r’ there. Jesus Christ.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

My thoughts: this was not an accident. This was testing the waters.

The staff at the National Review have always been neo-confederate trash and I have no trouble believing Lowry simply uses this word on such a routine basis that it slipped out during an interview with another arch-conservative media figure.

These folks are racists and it shouldn't be seen as surprising when they show all the symptoms of a bigoted mind.

[–] UmeU@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Really sounds like it starts with an N and not an M so I don’t buy the mispronunciation story.

Also there is the fact that neither immigrants nor migrants ends in ‘gger’

He prolly had a bet with a friend that he would slip in an N word.

[–] Avatar_of_Self@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I saw the dumb defender say he was conflating immigrant and migrant but I replayed that part a dozen times. It really, really sounds like an 'N' as the first letter. It definitely was not him beginning to pronounce 'immgr'. You can plainly hear it.

But even if we gave him the benefit of the doubt, the fact that Megyn Kelly completely ignored it and the fact that he didn't apologize immediately and explain it says volumes about both of them. Why didn't Kelly even say anything? Maybe she's so used to hearing it in her circles, maybe even saying it, that it didn't even register as something unusual to her and she didn't notice it.

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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I wondered if this might turn out to be somebody reading something into something, but Nope, he said it clear as a bell. You don't accidentally say that unless you're thinking it. This is obviously a word this guy uses frequently, and he even seems proud of himself for it.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Even better, there is a video of it. He definitely said it.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

I was all but bending over backwards trying to hear how it might have been just a slip, bringing to bear the fact that both words have a nasal consonant and hard 'g' sounds, but... nope. He enunciates an 'n' again, clearly after he's done saying "Haitian" and therefore where it doesn't belong, and then he gets all the way to the hard '-er', a “murmur diphthong” that simply doesn't exist in 'immigrant' or 'migrant'. The most charitable explanation with any plausibility whatsoever is that the n-word is a part of his spoken vocabulary and he failed to censor himself quickly enough.

Fuckin' gross.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 7 points 1 month ago

Yeah I have Threads in my uBlock filters. Watched the clip and, yeah, that's a hard N if I've ever heard one.

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