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[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's also just an outright lie. But, I guess that doesn't matter anymore.

[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's not all electric, some of the train is just regular matter

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Wait until you learn how molecular bonds work...

[–] endlessvoid@lemmy.today 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sure that part's electric, but what about the bonds keeping the quarks of the train together?

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Don't respond to this @NaibofTabr@infosec.pub, he's trying to get your grand unified theory before you publish.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

this is the internet I don't learn

[–] az04@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You could learn this internet if you decided to.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

dont make me tap the sign

[–] Thrashy@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

I did a little digging and it seems like there's a tiny kernel of fact at the core of this giant turd of a hype-piece, and that is the fact that they electrified this little spur line from Berlin to the new German Tesla factory by using a battery-electric trainset. Which is not a terrible solution for electrifying a very short branch line that presumably doesn't need frequent all-day service, even if it's a bit of a janky approach compared to overhead lines. But hand that off to the overworked, underpaid twenty-two-year old gig worker they've got doing "editing" at Yahoo for two bucks an article, and I guess it turns into "world-first electric wonder train amazes!"

For a second, though, I read the headline and wondered if Musk and co. had finally looped all the way around to reinventing commuter rail from first principles after all these years of trying to "disrupt" it with bullshit ideas like Hyperloop and Tunnels, But Dumber.

[–] fuzzy_feeling@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

it's the Mireo Plus B from siemens. it's already in use in the north of germany since march of this year.
https://www.nordbahn.de/blog/so-isses/der-norden-begruesst-die-akku-zuege/

there's nothing elon about this train, just that it's driving to his factory.

they are great for short distances that are difficult to electrify.

[–] Quik@infosec.pub 1 points 10 months ago

Honestly, I’d be more than happy if they just invented regular trains (even if their version would probably worse in ways not even imaginable as of now), because that would mean more money in train infrastructure.

So… yeah, you did it! You built something really cool and completely new! And don’t look over there, that’s just… copycats?

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I guess if by a kernel of truth you mean an existing train was used on an existing track, then you could almost make it make sense? But since all of this existed before, it's just a lie.

I'll also point out that anybody introducing battery electric trains instead of just electrifying the remaining parts of rail is making an astoundingly bad choice, but that's almost certainly Germany and not Tesla.

[–] Solely_a_Catt@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Just wow… So if you look closely at the picture, you can barely see the number '563' on the train. If you have a look at list of locomotives and railbuses iof DB on Wikipedia, you can see that this train is a Siemens Mireo.

Now, let's take the headline apart. Is it the first all-electric trai… no! Is it the first accumulator train? Also no, as you can see in the list above, the class 515 exists and the Stadler Flirt Akku has been used on a line since October 2023, Is it the first Siemens Mireo Plus B being used? You guess what, nope. As an example, SWEG is using some of them to bridge non-electrified parts of the track since April 2024.

So finally, what is special about the Gigatrain? (gosh, I actually really dislike that name) In February 2024, the subsidary 'Smart Train Lease GmbH' of Siemens Mobility has been announced. There you can also lease two Siemens Mireo Plus Bs. Tesla is their very first client. That's it

Whoops, got longer as expected. In case I made small mistakes, feel free to point it out

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 1 points 10 months ago

Train nerds are a weird bunch.

Please never change.

[–] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So. It's Teslas first train. That they bought?

[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 1 points 10 months ago

That they leased

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

True innovators

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Wait til they learn about twin story trains. Twice the capacity!

Edit: And the first gen, a bit less comfortable tho but more reliable.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

They aren't saying it's the first electric train, they are saying it's the first all electric "Giga Train".

It's like how Bros kept trying to imply it was the first gay movie, or even first gay romcom, but it was the first gay romcom that was created and released by a major studio whose initial release was a "wide" release in more than one country.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Bros kept trying to imply it was the first gay movie, or even first gay romcom, but it was the first gay romcom that was created and released by a major studio whose initial release was a “wide” release in more than one country.

Torch Song Trilogy (1988)? The Birdcage (1996)? I don't know about "more than one country", but they were major studio movies with wide releases.

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago

New Line isn't one of the "major studios", so Torch Song is out, and I'm not sure that Birdcage is a romcom.
Maurice, Trick, and The Broken Heart's Club, are also older and much better than bros, but not major studio releases.

But all of these movies are watchable, so they're better than Bros.

[–] hark@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Hype over fake news like this is one major reason how tesla's stock price has gotten as high as it has.