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[–] jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social 108 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The lack of Google/Microsoft enshittification is a huge draw.

[–] tryagain@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Amen, fellow Lemming. It feels good to pull away from an enshittified corporate staple and adopt something that isn't trying to consume your soul.

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[–] BaalInvoker@lemmy.eco.br 82 points 1 year ago

Not chromium based. I think it's important to have alternatives to chromium-based browsers and Google's monopoly.

If Firefox vanishes, I'll use Epiphany instead.

[–] F4rtEmp3r0r@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 year ago

A lot of false equivocating has been made regarding Mozilla and actual surveillance capitalism firms like Google and Microsoft. Mozilla remains, in my mind, the least of all evils with an organization capable of supporting a modern web browser as well as other projects.

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because it's not controlled by the same company that also controls my smartphone OS, my internet search engine, the videos I watch ...

And it works pretty alright.

[–] tryagain@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 year ago

I remember when Netscape was abandoned and open-sourced as Mozilla, and it was huge and bloated as slow as hell. And out of that came a project to just pull out the browser part of Mozilla and make it super fast and as portable. I remember a series of early alphas, and even the name went through a few evolutions. First it was called Phoenix, then Firebird, briefly, until they realised Firebird was taken and changed it to Firefox. It had this shiny new Gecko rendering engine and its only rival was IE...5?

When I started my first dev job in 2006, Firefox was far and away the best browser to use because it had an extension that no other browser could match: Firebug. Firebug was the precursor to the standard F12 devtools that every browser now has and it was life-changing if you were a web developer. (Try imagine doing your job without it now.)

Then Chrome arrived and it was shiny and W3C compliant (yay!) and you could pull a tab off into a separate window (wow!) and every tab ran as a separate process (neat!) and Google wouldn't be evil for at least another decade. Back then, FF had memory leak problems and that drove a lot of us away.

And then Chrome pulled this ad surveillance shit and I was fucking out. I'm so glad that FF is still here.

I let myself be fully engulfed by the Google/Chrome/Android continuum and it's only recently that I realised just how much of myself I gave away and, while my personal data has long since been propagated to a million servers, I'd still like to try keep some of myself to myself.

My back hurts.

[–] Artopal@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 year ago

Because it's better.

Because it's open source.

Because it's not based on Chromium and competition is good.

And also because TabStash.

I use Firefox because I can use the full version of UBlock Origin, and UBlock Origin also works on the mobile browser.

I also make heavy use of the extension Multi-Account Containers for signing in with different accounts for the same service at once.

Lastly, I prefer the UI for Firefox over anything else.

[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Ramin_HAL9001@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Because it isn't WebKit.

This is exactly the reason I use Firefox too.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because the options are firefox, chrome, or chrome in a moustache and glasses

All of which I use because X thing doesn't work on Y browser

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because Chrome is unfiltered corpo shit and Brave is owned and operated by right-wing assholes peddling cryptocurrency.

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[–] Scio@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Because I have no other viable option.

[–] wim@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 year ago

It's the only truly free choice for a browser.

I've been using it for 20-ish years and there's never been a major reason to switch, and all the alternatives seem worse.

Also, it's all that stands between Google and the free web at this point.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

It's the only other option

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 year ago

Because its not chrome and has good extension support (I actually use librewolf)

[–] Delusion6903@discuss.online 17 points 1 year ago

Firefox had the best reader view of any browser and looks great in both mobile and desktop.

Also, uBlock

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 17 points 1 year ago
  1. Because of FoxyGestures, I can't find a good replacement for this on Chromium based browsers.

  2. Because of uBlock Origin, Firefox has the full version, on mobile too.

  3. Because Google Chrome can scan my files system for “malware” and improving their ad data, in other words their spying goes too far.

  4. Because of the customisability of the UI.

  5. Because I can tweak every variable (visit about:config)

  6. Because if you turn telemetry off, it's actually off, Google lies about that.

  7. Because Google's market share is so big, that they have the guts to try and DRM the entire Internet for their browser, no company should have that much power.

[–] nixchick@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Do any other browsers exist?

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cause it’s the only non chromium browser left

[–] Aetherion@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Apple User quietly steps away

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[–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago

Because it's what my father installed and set as default on all PCs. By the point I had my own and could have made the decision myself, I was just so used to it that I didn't wanna switch.

The ideological conviction came later.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because IE sucked, Netscape was dead, and I was a contrarian little 20 year old who downloaded this new weird shit called "Firebird" to be different from everyone else which then turned into Firefox and then I just kinda kept using it. But I had tabbed browsing like five years before everyone else thought it was cool.

[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a combination of FireFox being the least shit and the most functional option, really. Still kind of shit by default, so I go for Librewolf. Also I've been using it since Firebird.

Overall the browser market is depressing.

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[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Because Netscape Navigator died.

[–] mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.fmhy.net 8 points 1 year ago

Cause fuck Manifest V3

[–] amycatgirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago

Because it just works

[–] Drito@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

The logo is cool. Also it is not driven by Google which is a web company and a browser developer at the same, thats dangerous.

[–] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are two browsers with sync, and one of them syncs with Google.

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[–] breezelbub@l.shoddy.site 7 points 1 year ago

Because it's the successor to netscape, and I never felt the need to change browsers. Glad I didn't.

[–] kanzalibrary@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Supporting open-source digital environment and resist to big corporate's monopoly.

[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I've used Chrome since the beginning and moved from Firefox. I've been happy. I'd still be happy but now I'm back on Firefox because of Google's intentions. It's led me to start to move away from Google as a whole. Moved my emails and search to DuckDuckGo.

It's going to be hard to move away from other services. Maps and YouTube for example.

[–] PersonalDevKit@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is hard to move away from maps completely but for pure navigation there are many alternatives. From the FOSS world, there are 2 I would recommend.

Organic Maps - fairly clean and focused app mainly around navigation

OsmAnd~ - a more fleshed out map app. Easily see hiking routes, ski routes, etc. This is the one I am trying to use at the moment.

Still doesn't help solve the google review for restraunts and shops etc, but it is a step in the right direction.

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[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I have a Firefox tattoo on my penis and all my friends will think I'm a liar if i use Chrome.

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Great privacy (especially with addons), no chromium, ublock on mobile

[–] HouseWolf@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Because I've been using it since the Windows 7 days and Chrome never gave me a good reason to switch.

Recent events have only solidified my choice.

[–] miname@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

Lack of alternatives...

[–] LinuxSBC@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

userChrome.css, vertical tabs, better integration with the host system than Vivaldi or Edge, and support for fling scrolling that's not insanely fast on touchpads.

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[–] mariom@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It's not chrome / chrome-based. We need to have any choice. As Chrome is very, very loved by corporations, and Firefox hated... it means that for personal use it's the best browser available.

[–] manpacket@lemmyrs.org 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Been using it since forever, no reasons to switch. It works. Got a bit upset at them when they killed xul/pentadactyl though.

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[–] Stephen304@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

A major reason for me is manifest v3 and other shenanigans designed to neuter ad blockers. Secondary to that is promoting web renderer diversity - as a web dev I don't want to go back to the days where we could only afford to cater to one engine - chromium / blink in this case.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 1 year ago

Because it's NOT Google and Firefox not embracing WebBundles or the “Web Integrity API” standard from Google. Google want to INTRODUCE DRM on the web.
And just recently YouTube (==Google) now also have very strict medical policy, so it can only follow the WHO guidelines. Google is evil, look out. Even Dr. Eric Berg is getting censored. Look out people.

[–] jennraeross@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

A couple reasons:

  • I really like having my tabs on the side, it just plays well with my vimium workflow
    • This largely narrows it down to Firefox, Vivaldi, Edge, Arc
  • I like open source
    • Only Firefox remains
[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago

Extensions. AdBlock for Phoenix was a killer feature.

[–] haagch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Because I can log into the sync feature without the browser logging me into every single google service automatically with the same account.

Also the Firefox Multi-Account Containers extension.

I really like the developer tools. I always the install the developer edition (which is basically just the beta) and I find the defaults and menus more intuitive than Chrome’s, though at this point, they’re probably at feature parity. I could probably get Chrome to work how I want by changing settings but why? It’s not faster or better at this point.

I have ideological reasons too but honestly, the main reason is just that I like Firefox better. As a developer, it’s also nice to have Chromium (or Google Chrome) completely clean. If there’s a bug I can’t recreate in Firefox, I can open Chrome with no extensions or cache. Since that’s sort of the “default” for most users, it’s nice to keep my daily driver separate.

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