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[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 91 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Looks like it's time to bring this meme out again.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be fair, he was calling for more debates when he was running against Biden, who was ... ineffective.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I low key think if sleepy Joe had another debate, he'd mop the floor with Donald. He was clearly sick during the last one, and aside from the 2 gotcha sound bites that dropped, he was actually the more coherent one. Trump was just spouting the usual lies and bullshit, but louder. I think if Biden had another chance he'd have been fine. Having said that, I'm glad the Dems have Kamala now who is not afraid to call out Trump's multitudes of bullshittery.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I sadly foresee neither candidate being as effective in office as Biden has been. Trump will destroy us, and Harris will likely have every GOP voting against everything she tries to do, with some doubling down on sexism, racism, and who knows what other debotchery. Biden was far enough white, I mean right, that some Republicans would agree to things. The gloves seem to be off now; it used to be if you represented your populous wrong you would get voted out. Right now Republicans will vote directly against anything put forth by her, even if it includes cutting their own nose off.

I'm not saying Biden did all the right things, I'm saying he was able to traverse a polarized legislative branch and get at least a couple things passed.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I do worry that the "silent majority" (aka closet racists and misogynists) could fuck up the election. I said it on debate night that I worried people would run Biden off for that debate; they'll be forced to run Kamala and the Dems lose because some people don't want to vote a mixed race woman.

Having said that, she appears to be winning in the polls, and I hope it stays that way on election day. Long way to go though.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Harris will likely have every GOP voting against everything she tries to do

So exactly what happened when Obama was president?

Look at the Affordable Care Act vs Obamacare (yes, it's the same thing- tell that to the Republicans), or the handling of the supreme Court while Obama was president.

Bipartisan compromise went out the window with a brown man as president; a brown woman having the potential to be president is already making their heads explode.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Didn't the Affordable Care Act go through because the Democrats held the majority for 2 months in which they passed it without the GOP being able to block it? I could be wrong about that

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 59 points 1 month ago

I've said it before, they should use Trump's time to explain why his previous answers to the same questions were lies.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The number one question for her to get right:

Voter: “Why does the economy suck so bad from my perspective?”

Standard GOP Answer: “Brown people”

Standard Dem Answer: “As a whole, the economy has never been stronger”

Winning Dem Answer: “Rich people”

I haven’t seen a Dem candidate other than Bernie answer this correctly in my entire life.

It’s not just a failure of policy and campaigning, it’s also a denial of basic reality which has allowed fascists to come in and offer an alternative toxic explanation.

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 14 points 1 month ago

Dems aren't allowed to say that because they are owned by the very same rich people lol

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

the power move would be if she goes to Faux News

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

She accepted the Fox News debate, he declined.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

It's worked for Pete. Well spoken people can break through the bullshit, but it takes someone special. I'm not sure if Harris has that, but I think she may.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Having a conversation where one party promises to always act in bad faith is a bad move.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

The Orange Shit Stain knows VP Harris will destroy him during a debate.

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