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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 143 points 2 months ago (19 children)

I'm a lifelong fan of political dramas. I watched the BBC version of House of Cards and adored The Manchurian Candidate.

There's stuff going on in this election that makes everything I ever read seem placid and tame.

[–] assembly@lemmy.world 132 points 2 months ago (49 children)

Republicans would vote for the corpse of Trump before even considering not making a terrible decision. I cannot believe that this election is this close. It’s mind boggling that the outcome is currently a toss up between Nazi spray tan confused grandpa and middle road politician.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 56 points 2 months ago (5 children)

The point isn't to get Trump into the Whitehouse; it's to get Vance into the whitehouse.

Trump will legitimately kick the bucket within the next four years, guaranteed. And Vance will be the one to take his place. Vance will be the one who is suddenly an "incumbant" backed by the heritage foundation who is actually reasonably well spoken, able to debate, far smarter than Trump, and younger.

Vance wasn't "chosen" by Trump, he came as a part of the deal with the Heritage Foundation to get him elected.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My hope is that after Herr Trump finally croaks there will be a power vacuum in the party. Sure if he's elected and it happens in office there will be an effort to consolidate around Vance, but you know some looked over pissant is waiting in the wings to try to take the reins. If he's not elected it will likely be much more tumultuous. Here's hoping.

[–] flying_mechanic@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trump is a figurehead and mouth piece only, it's clear the backing and power behind him is pushing him, not the other way around. If Trump is dead or unelectable then they will sub in someone else. Trump's "saving grace" is that he was good at speaking in a relatable but obfuscating way which worked to foment the masses against imagined grievances, but that's not a trait unique to him. He is unfortunately replaceable with not much loss in momentum.

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[–] radiohead37@lemmynsfw.com 45 points 2 months ago

It’s infuriating that the election is this close. People were complaining that Biden was too old. A smart qualified candidate took his place, Trump now is having mental breakdowns in public, and somehow, the election is still a toss-up.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

If he died tomorrow Republicans would be Black-Friday-75%-off-smart-tvs trampling each other to be the one to skin him and wear him so they could continue the coup.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you wrote this election into a political drama ten years ago, it'd get rejected as not believable.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago

True story I have told so many times....

Right after the 2016 election the NY Times assembled a panel of all the creators of the top TV political dramas. House of Cards, West Wing, Scandal, Veep...

Every creator said the same thing. If they'd had a character say that they "liked soldiers who didn't get captured" the networks and advertisers would have demanded that character be shown as hated by all Americans and voted out by the next episode.

Meanwhile you have MAGooswho also fly the black POW/MIA flag next to their Trump flag

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Reality has the bad habit of often being unrealistic.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 24 points 2 months ago

I was against Biden stepping down because I figured there'd be a stampede of Dems fighting for the nomination.

I never dreamed they'd all line up behind the Black woman who didn't win any primaries.

Like you said, reality does what it wants and pays no attention to the script.

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[–] immutable@lemm.ee 118 points 2 months ago (1 children)

After his 40 minute solo dance party, he’s probably exhausted.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago

Very low energy. Sad!

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 83 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The evening began to take a different trajectory when a man appeared to faint in the crowd. Trump paused his remarks. Attendees fanned the man and began to sing “God Bless America.” As the man waited for medical help, Trump mused: “While we’re waiting. So we had a beautiful evening. And I don’t know if they could get this song up quickly, but if they could work really quickly backstage while we’re waiting. ‘Ave Maria.’” The song began to play.

Brother what in the fuck is going on anymore.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 75 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's honestly tame compared to the rest of the town hall

At the end, he made it sound like he was done and going to wrap up, said thank you and then he... just stood there for 39 minutes noding to music

Oh also he said "does anyone else want to faint too" after someone fainted

He also told people to vote on January 5th instead of election day (Nov 5th)

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That honestly sounds like he cant recenter himself, which if true means he may not be alive much longer. My great great aunt wasnt able to recenter herself and died within a couple days from that point. Mind you he could stay in a coupletely alucid state for who knows how long, it is kinda random.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It could be that he's tired, old, and really fucking lazy. He wants to be in front of his crowd as it indulges his pathetic need for attention but he just can't be bothered to meet them halfway by trotting out the same old lies so he just stands there, shuffling a little to some music while they bask in his magnificence.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Honestly Trump is such a weird bastard that its pretty much impossible to tell, could be either or really. But theres just this gut feeling I have that Trump is breaking down and is fast approaching the Reaper. Especially given that his actions are getting more random, there was a pattern in it before even if it was comparable to my sleeping habits, but now it just seems scattered like the pattern is still there but its drifting and becoming disconnected.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm not going to argue that he's in decline but I'd argue that trying to remotely diagnose him isn't helpful.

He ran for President, he won - Trump happy.

He ran again and lost - Trump not happy but rigged election!

Now he's running yet again and it's close but he's losing, crowd sizes are smaller, he's old and tired, legal issues are piling up, and so on - Trump starting to lose his shit.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Aight now I get ya. I am simply giving my opinion, I said it was partly from a gut feeling for a reason.

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[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Don’t forget a second person fainted as well.

Folks fanning themselves while he dances and leans while music plays because he didn’t pay for Air conditioning

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[–] IMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTION@lemmy.world 75 points 2 months ago (6 children)

lmao if he dies of old age 3 weeks before the election I'm gonna shit my pants

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

I would rather have that than him win and JD Vance become president.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Me too. I’ll go get some depends undergarments just in case.

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[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 months ago

His team is doing a Weekend at Bernie's hide-the-dementia dance until the election

[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 64 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Think his team is more so afraid of making his mental decline even more obvious after his town hall yesterday. He cut if off early, said "who wants to listen to questions" and "let's listen to music" followed by an early wrapping up. Sounded like he was going to leave, but he just didn't. He stood on stage for 39 minutes of him nodding on stage to music

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/10/14/trump-music-sways-town-hall/

[–] thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

39 minutes...that's really troubling. It's not like 1 song or 2 short songs, to take a few impromptu questions as people filled out. That's almost an hour of some sort of severe breakdown.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 57 points 2 months ago (2 children)

His team was telling him to take more questions on the teleprompter and he still just stood there

(Photo from the Washington Post article)

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I always knew his teleprompter wasn't just lines to a prewritten speech.

They literally have people that type messages to him in real time, but they can't put a lot up there so he just gets vague topics and rambles about it, then when a new message pops up he changes immediately to that.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago

For the record, it is not unusual for a teleprompter to be used to message the person reading it.

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[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

39 minutes is basically a whole power metal album, I should know I listen to Sabaton, Hulkoff, and Tyr. Thats a long fucken time.

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[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

Why? Can't you just play music and sway back and forth during the interview?

[–] darkpanda@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago

They could just play music to fill the time.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Dementia is kinda like that. Its there and causes problems that can be masked til one day the problems are not something that can be kept hidden.

[–] SelfProgrammed@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Somebody should tell him the last debate aired with "new smell-o-vision technology" and see if it's possible for his face to lose any more color.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

hasn't changed his diaper since the last one.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

Crash and burn! Crash and burn!

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 months ago

Because the only time he below 48% in the polling is when people outside his cult see him. Hiding may well win him the rust belt.

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