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One of the strangest elements of this story is that the Village People and Rufus Wainwright are on the Trump campaign playlist.
Weirdness - very on-brand for the cons, who are total freaks, and not in a good way of being a freak.
he was probably just on shrooms/molly or something similar. the guy is a menace but seriously? knocking a person for vibing out to music because they're sick of the campaign trail? honestly i wish he just did that all the time and left everyone else alone with his racist/facist non-sense.
I cannot help but wonder if we are in the Matrix, and David Lynch has been given the reins for the direction of what this time-line is....all donnie needs now is to dance with the backwards talking little man and to have the tall man materialize behind him....
This is a comment i made in a different thread:
The actual event is, as usual, fascinatingly cringey.
This is right after the second guy fainted, so trump’s already been interrupted twice, the venue’s tiny, and I think he doesn’t like dog killer Kristi Noem despite obvious commonalities. She was probably insufficiently subservient.
He wants security to open the doors to let fresh air in, but they can’t because of USSS measures to protect his dumb ass. Watch how he loses his mind in rage, suppresses it, and rolls it into his patter in the span of one second.
Then he says hey everybody lets all hear my favorite - Pavarotti singing Ave Maria! (Crowd cheers). The fuck? It gets weirder from there.
This whole thing is just afucking fever dream. I hope you americans can sort your shit out
That was a hard, bizarre watch - and from Fox no less. They're not beating the weird allegations, and they're not sending their best.
Republicans don't want a leader. They want a vegetable. Every (normal) Republican runs on limited government, then gets into power and adds government: (Nixon and the EPA, Bush and Homeland security, etc...) Regan came to power and then didn't do any of that, since he had alzheimers and didn't know who he was half the time.
That is the golden age they want to bring back.
Wait... Ronald Reagan didn't "didn't do any of [add government]" just because no new "three letter'd" agencies got founded under his tenure. In 1982 (or 83... I forget and am drunk right now), he almost doubled spending for the Department of Defense.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_policy_of_the_Ronald_Reagan_administration?wprov=sfla1
Who are the "they" in "they want to bring it back"? Some of them are war profiteers.
The orange loser should toss out some Gold Diapers.
This kind of behavior would have resulted in discussion of dementia and Alzheimers if it was ~~a Democrat.~~ literally any other person on the planet.
Fixed it for you.
I disagree, I remember how Fox totally ignored Bush choking on a pretzel or pushing on a pull door.
They protect their own and they'll defend anyone with an R next to their name.
If Trump ran as a Democrat, do you really think conservative media would ignore his obvious sundowning and pants shitting?
What about Elon of the weirdos gang?
Nah. I'm pretty well convinced a number of other Republicans could behave like this and the press wouldn't care.
Ol Mitch has fucking had strokes on camera and the media is like, oh that is just ol Mitch doing ol Mitch things. What a fellow!
I think at this point the Trump ticket is the JD Vance for President ticket. If they win, even if he doesn’t drop from a bad stroke or cardiovascular disease, the team will 25th his ass.
It’s essentially the Vance / Johnson ticket going forward.
the team will 25th his ass
That’s what they should do in that situation, but in reality, there’s no chance. The bar is too high.
From the 25th Amendment:
Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Trump would have a cabinet full of true believers and yes-men. There’s no way that more than half would be on board to jettison him. The Congressional cure is also a non-starter. If Trump were to win, there would probably also be a Republican-controlled Congress, and we all know that Congressional Republicans have zero spine when it comes to standing up to daddy.
Idk. Vance doesn’t strike you as just waiting for that opp? Look at how he flip flops.
I'm still thinking Vance would push Drumpf down the stairs within minutes if they won.
Yep
I completely, wholeheartedly believe that the GOP could fight kicking and screaming to get Trump elected and then immediately, unanimously 25 him before the inauguration is even complete. They have zero shame. This is not even slightly outside of their ballpark.
It's an obvious con, but that didn't stop them from doing the exact same thing with their supreme court justices. That was also an obvious con that would not have been allowed in any functioning government.
I just saw a photo from last nights town hall. The man looks like he wont make it to november 5th.
Sincere question: Have any of the experts run numbers on what happens to the vance ticket if trump takes a worm nap before nov 5th?
Yes. You have to remember you aren't electing Trump directly. You're voting for his electors.
If Trump dies before taking office, the party decides who will take his place.
It's most likely going to be Vance, but honestly it could be anyone.
Assuming that there isn't any fuckery (it's Republicans after all), then Vance becomes President and then nominates a VP that goes through the Senate approval process.
I can't remember the last time this was discussed but it was a while ago.
I agree, but that wasnt my question. Well, i guess it was accidentally vague. I can see how you misunderstood my prompt.
My question is in regards to what direction the voting public trend if that happens. Martyr boost propelling vance up, or fizzle bust?
Fizzle bust. Vance has a fraction of the charisma and no cult of personality. As for martyrs...
“Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.”
Hard to say. When he finally dies or is just off the Republican ticket one way or another, we'll find out how much of the Republican voting base is attached to Trump, not the GOP.
just played music for almost 40 minutes, scowling, smirking, and swaying onstage.
Context:
Trump called for Ava Maria to be played after a medical emergency put it on pause for about five minutes an hour into the event. He then took another question. Just a few minutes later, there was another medical emergency. Apparently it was a bit hot in the event space. It went off the rails soon after that as he called for the doors to be opened and wanting to play more music to end the event.
At one point he stops to ask if they want to do one more question. Although the crowd cheers and he says we'll do one more, he called for YMCA to be played.
Certainly an odd presidential town hall but definitely not the worst thing this guy has done and in no way did he "break down". Honestly, between the lies and threats to other humans, this might be the most human I've ever seen him. It's really sad to see how delusional these people are.
Here's the stream from PBS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-FhvhdVSZE
My favorite part was when they played James Brown's "This is a Man's World". Clearly, they haven't listened to the song LOL
Edit: Here's another story from ABC News - Trump's bizarre music session reignites questions about his mental acuity
His choice to play music is debatable. Having watched the video, it didn't seem odd to me that he made these choices. There was absolutely nothing in this town hall to indicate an issue with his mental acuity that has not already been known. He has always been an idiot. This is not news.
As much as I would love to believe that this is evidence of Trump in the throes of cognitive decline, I have to agree. Him standing there and doing nothing for 30 minutes is certainly low energy and cringe-worthy, but it isn't indicative of any kind of mental breakdown and the media and pundits are latching onto this too hard. The dishonestly on display is a little saddening, to be honest. There's plenty of things to hate Trump for without having to make up shit about his mental acuity.
I'm seeing an overwhelming number of headlines specifically targeting "cognitive decline". The media is banking on this thread to sway voters to not elect him.
First - "the media" (any responsible outlet, at least) should never try to sway an election.
Second - the people finding these stories aren't going to be swayed to begin with.
Third - Trump has changed News as we know it. Outlets are more motivated by clicks than reporting. Outside a small handful of exceptions, fair and unbiased reporting no longer exists.
Fourth - The "left wing media" is doing the same thing Fox News was doing ten years ago: lying and misrepresenting the facts to fit a narrative. That narrative is needed to compel their audience to subscribe to their social media and newsletters and to repost articles on these forums to generate ad revenue.
The left and the right are both in their own delusions. I agree that those on the right, certainly the far right, are more dangerous to democracy and American values. The outcome of these delusions is different but the formula and the manipulation of the public is the same. The left (which I consider myself a part of), is the frog in the slowly boiling pot.
People need to be more rational and unbiased when reading the news. People need to call out these editors for misrepresenting the facts or making claims that are guesses at best.
I agree with you. This is weird and cringy and not presidential. THIS is the guy we want as Commander in Chief? Still, I could easily see this event happen at a mayoral town hall. I could absolutely see Tim Walz doing something like this. So, from the perspective of the cult that sits before him, I could easily understand them loving this seemingly intimate moment with their false god.
From the eyes of his followers, this event was a win for Trump. That's a perspective a responsible news outlet should consider - not 'how did this look from the staunch left' but how did this look from the desperate right.
The media needs to stop reassuring us this is an easy win for Harris. Stop preaching to the choir that the man is sick in the head (we have known this for ten years). They need to inform us how serious this election is and how devoted his followers are. They should be scaring us, with truthful reporting, to show up in numbers never seen in US history.
The responsible media needs to work on reaching the clueless believers. They need to gain the trust back from the public at large. Running headlines/stories like this is strengthening the distrust of the media.
Well, we've tried convicting him with felonies and playing actual tape of him describing rape, which he is guilty of, and no one seemed particularly swayed. So, facts and evidence seem to be out. If it takes a more abstract, personal approach to break the spell he holds half the voters in the country under, then so be it.
God SNL is going to feast this weekend