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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 59 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Cowards. The Ukrainians are laying down their lives in defense of Europe and they can't even get this, but a genocidal maniac who would sacrifice millions to remain in power gets all the aid he wants.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 36 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

IDK, this seems like the DoD actually doing their jobs (for once).We've given tons of anti-missile systems to ukraine. Deploying THAAD to a conflict where we can't actively deploy US troops alongside it is a serious intelligence risk, and it doesn't fill a particular role thats missing in Ukraine. Russia hasn't been using ballistic missiles of the size THAAD would even be effective against. Patriot, MANPAD, aerial launched and even hera systems have been extremely effective, and NATO continues to supply those systems for Ukraine.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 21 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Ukraine has recieved several anti missile systems from the US, but do not man them as in Isreal. I suppose if US Troops were killed by the Russians in an attack, then all kinds of escalating shit would happen.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What kind if escalation does putin have though? Hes bombing civilians, schools and hospitals. And the nUcLeAr saber rattling has been used so much the saber is all dull.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -5 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

But he's not bombing US hospitals. Read NATO, Article 5

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Article 5 requires co-defense an attack occurs in the territory of NATO nations (or places occupied by members when NATO was created). It doesn't cover US forces getting put in harms way and attacked in a non-member country. It doesn't even troops getting attacked in Hawaii.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Which is the reason NATO joined the US is Afghanistan

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That's not how article 5 works.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Yes, it does.

I see you can't support your own statement.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

But escalating with Iran is fine I guess?

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Iran would be destroyed by US Airpower. They know it.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

And then what? Iraq got destroyed by air power, Afghanistan got destroyed by air power. Now both countries are hot beds of terrorism and instability.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, but the Taliban or Iraq are not able to mass manufacture drones to sell to Russia.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

No, Afghanistan was not about air power. Iran has a lot to lose and could lose it very easily.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

And they're not a nuclear power. Like, pointedly not. We made real sure of that.

[–] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago

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