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[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure the ICC already ruled that Israel does not have that right. Not sure which judges the US State dept is asking.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago

I don’t think the US recognizes the ICC, so (unfortunately) it stands to reason they wouldn’t care what they rule.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Too bad usa is a rogue empire.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 0 points 4 weeks ago

It is unfortunate that the last few administrations have acted that way.

[–] Shameless@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Its the civilians fault for not better protecting themselves from missiles and bullets? We must all be stupid for not realizing this sooner

[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Genocide by blasting entire residential city blocks. No, they do not have that right.

[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

Yes, they certainly do.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 4 weeks ago

More Israel's right to defend itself?

[–] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I have to be honest, I'm still a little confused about the relationship of Lebanon's sovereign government and Hezbollah. Are they synonymous? Is that how Israel is able to just lay waste to Lebanon as well without the world screaming about attacks on sovereign territory?

[–] fukhueson@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-hezbollah

What role has it played in Lebanese politics?

Hezbollah has been a fixture of the Lebanese government since 1992, when eight of its members were elected to Parliament, and the party has held cabinet positions since 2005. The party marked its integration into mainstream politics in 2009 with an updated manifesto that was less Islamist than its predecessor and called for “true democracy.” The most recent national elections, in 2022, saw Hezbollah maintain its 13 seats in Lebanon’s 128-member Parliament, though the party and its allies lost their majority.

Hezbollah essentially operates as a government in the areas under its control, and neither the military nor federal authorities can counter this, Arab Barometer analysts MaryClare Roche and Michael Robbins write for Foreign Affairs. It manages a vast network of social services that include infrastructure, health-care facilities, schools, and youth programs, all of which have been instrumental in garnering support for Hezbollah from Shiite and non-Shiite Lebanese alike. Even so, Arab Barometer polling in 2024 found that “despite Hezbollah’s significant influence in Lebanon, relatively few Lebanese support it.”

At the same time, Hezbollah maintains its military arm. Under the 1989 Taif Agreement, which was brokered by Saudi Arabia and Syria and ended Lebanon’s civil war, Hezbollah was the only militia allowed to keep its arms. Analyst and Brigadier General (Ret.) Assaf Orion, of Israel’s Institute for National Security Studies, says Hezbollah possesses “a larger arsenal of artillery than most nations enjoy,” and a 2018 report from the Center for Strategic and International Studies called it “the world’s most heavily armed non-state actor.” In June 2024, experts speculated that Hezbollah has 150,000–200,000 rockets and missiles of various ranges.

Critics say Hezbollah’s existence violates UN Security Council Resolution 1559—adopted in 2004—which called for all Lebanese militias to disband and disarm. The UN Force in Lebanon (UNFIL), first deployed in 1978 to restore the central government’s authority, remains in the country and part of its mandate is to encourage Hezbollah to disarm.

[–] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

This is remarkably helpful in clearing things up. Thank you very much!

With the government of Lebanon allowing Hezbollah this kind of status, it would seem that Israel is not just targeting a terrorist organization but the government of Lebanon itself since it permits and supports Hezbollah as part of its own government.

Considering that most Lebanese don't support Hezbollah, this is even more tragic. Israel continues to lay waste to the country due to the actions of a minority government entity. And it's the Lebanese citizens who are paying the price.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 weeks ago

The state department is a war criminal with zero credibility.