DOJ are you listening? These are the same charges Hunter is being indicted for
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Do certain medications which are are strong as some and worse than many illegal disqualify someone from owning a firearm? Wasn't there pretty wide claims about Trump popping pills which would disqualify him from owning a firearm anyway?
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It's a question on a federal background check. For people who live in states where scheduled drugs are legal for recreation, it's a grey area. The state wouldn't care, but the feds do.
It's basically boils down to "gotcha" requirements. If you get investigated for federal crimes and also own firearms but live in a state where some scheduled drugs are legal that you use, the fed can still just flag any future checks and charge you with lying on any previous background checks.
I am not a fan of that kind of legal fuckery, especially if a person happens to be charged with a crime they didn't commit and still get investigated.
It's worth noting that this kind of shit never happens and the only reason Hunter is being charged with it is because that's all they could make stick
It happens. It’s just not usually news worthy. Low bar, but still.
In this case the crime would be purchasing a handgun in a state in which you are not a resident.
Handguns can only be purchased in your home state. It's why California's handgun roster is such a big deal. They simply refuse to allow new models of handguns to be sold there regardless of whether or not their features are illegal, and buying them out of state is prohibited.
With long guns, the gun's features must be legal in both the state where the sale is taking place and the state in which the buyer lives. With pistols it's simply illegal to transfer the firearm to someone from out of state.
If I was from Arizona and wanted to give a single-shot 22 plinking pistol to my Dad in Texas, I'd have to sell it to a local firearms dealer, have them transfer it to a Texas dealer, and have my Dad buy it there.
I dunno what state you live in, but the majority of what you stated isn't true in the vast majority of the country.
Ya, I live in a more restricted state and have purchased a handgun from out of state. It goes to a firearm dealer and they transfer it to you after doing whatever background checks your state requires. The gun isn't sold to the dealer, they just hold it while everything clears. I don't know anything about interstate private sales though.
One fun fact though is that you can buy an M1 Garand from the government and they'll ship it to your door. So that's pretty neat.
For an M1 Garand, the requirements are a little different than just getting a background check.
For those who care: https://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/eligibility-requirements/
I am currently in Colorado, and person to person firearm transfers are prohibited, unless you have the appropriate license. I bought my Taurus .40 from a friend in South Carolina when I lived in North Carolina. It was perfectly legal without needing an FFL transfer.
Laws get weird in different states like the person above said, but in Colorado you can buy a rifle if you are from out of state but you must be a resident for a pistol.
I haven't read up on any recent law changes about that though. Colorado just implemented a mandatory three day wait after a background check, so there is that.
So how do those large swap meets work with out of state residents all furiously filling out bg check forms and purchasing?
Hunter is most likely going to walk for good reason. What he was charged with are unconditional laws. If he walks, so will Trump. And that's assuming you can pin Trump with unlawful use first.
DOJ knows they are getting crushed with Hunter. Even 2A orgs offered legal help to him. They know the laws can't be upheld by an honest judge. So why hit Trump with the same charges that they're losing their shit over with Hunter?
No, it isn't. Hunter is being charged with lying about drug use on a gun form. This would be Trump buying a gun with active indictments against him.
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Is he shopping for his final firearm? You know, the pistol that stops him from being taken to jail?
Trump would flee to Russia before he would off himself
Then start a grift to convince true patriots to move there with him.
With any luck it’ll be a Secret Service persons duty pistol.
The same Secret Service that conveniently yet 'accidentally' deleted all of their texts from January 5-7 after they were subpoenaed and told to preserve those texts? The same Secret Service where Mike Pence said (like a Criminal Minds victim), "I'm not getting in the car, Tim. I trust you, Tim, but you're not driving the car. If I get in that vehicle, you guys are taking off. I'm not getting in the car."
I wouldn't particularly hold your breath about Trump's Secret Service detail being particularly loyal to the United States.
Trump's SS
He does want to be like Hitler.....
The one that will be found in the bunker with Eva Braun?
So a spokesman posts on Twitter that he bought a gun and then someone has to delete the post and say it is not true? Sounds like amateur hour for his campaign but I thought he only hired the "best and brightest".
I thought he only hired the “best and brightest”.
"they're not sending their best"
"And some, I assume, are good people"
Turns out the best and the brightest insist on being paid.
There's more evidence that Trump makes bad hiring decisions than there's evidence for gravity.
I thought he only hired the “best and brightest”.
He hires only the best and brightest he can get. It's a much smaller pool.
Can he try NOT committing any crimes for like one day? Just to see if he can do it?
Trump will never stop committing crimes
One day he will die. Crimes inspired by and in his name will never stop though. He's practically a religious figure now.
He’s replaced Christ to evangelical Christians. He’s their messiah now. Jesus was too woke 🤣
He said he’s messiah to the Jewish people.
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Lying liar says what?
The law only applies to brown people under indictment who want to purchase firearms, not ~~white~~ orange ones.
He really wants to make sure nobody breaks his record as most indicted president of all time I guess...
Wait, I'm still catching up. Why would it have been illegal?
He's been indicted on felony charges, felons can't own guns.
He's not a felon (yet). Does that law apply to indictments?
Edit: No, it doesn't:
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/09/19/second-amendment-texas-case-buy-guns-felony-indictment/
He doesn't live in that state.
This is the reason.
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