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I'm still undecided on an electric car, mostly because modern cars are such privacy nightmares on wheel (not Tesla-specific).
But there's one thing for sure: whatever car I get eventually won't be a Tesla, and that's 100% due to Musk's misguided political gesticulations.
I'm one example of business lost forever to Tesla. One example doesn't make a trend, but if there's one, there are others.
The main reason I won't buy tesla is Elon.
Secondly I want a "real" car with proper signalling leavers and tactile buttons for everything, in my opinion touch screens is a safety risk.
My parents got an EV recently and whenever you start it up you have to hit OK to a data collection thing on the touch screen before it let's you drive off 🥴
Sadly, most new cars are Internet connected nowadays, not just EV.
In fact, GM got caught selling customers data from their ICE cars (OnStar connected).
I've heard so much shit about Teslas now that even if they sold the company to Bernie Sanders I wouldn't get one
Most of it is bollocks. The cars are actually fine. Only the moron-in-chief makes me want to sell mine.
Being trapped in a fire? Self igniting batteries? Stuck due to software updates? Doorhandles don't work when out of battery? Body pieces not secure? Self driving is a lie? Anti safety, anti union practices in assembly? The social cost of everyone thinking you're a Musk fanboy?
The guy has simply lost it.
Complete idiot. All he had to do was keep his mouth shut.
True. Jeff Bezos probably the most evil man on earth, but he knows to keep his mouth shut. So his business just getting bigger and no one really care about him and most importantly the media mostly just leave him alone.
Imagine getting so mad online that you had a $44 billion dollar, years long meltdown about it. You wouldn’t have to pay me 1% of that to never post online again.
I know the exact number someone would have to pay me to never post online again. That number is 3 orders of magnitude smaller than 44 billion. I could take less than that but I want to be compensated for giving up a fun little hobby.
I own 2 Model 3’s. I waited in line the day before the reveal to plunk down $1000 to reserve it sight-unseen.
I will never buy a Tesla again, and want to unload my 2 as soon as a comparable replacement is available. I’m embarrassed to drive mine around.
I'm really hoping Rivian can pull off mass production of the R2 and R3.
Is it because of Elon at the helm of the company or moreso because the car itself is poorly made, unreliable, etc? I have a few friends who own Tesla's, and I get mixed answers. Some say the quality is good others say it's a POS.
It almost varies from car to car in my very limited experience. Just from outside one, the build quality varies wildly. I worked for a surgery center for a few years and didn't notice until I saw 2 Drs parked side by side and one of them had massive body panels gaps that even I noticed. Having seen the difference, I can see it when I pass by parked ones as I go around town.
The lack of consistency is a deal breaker for me, even if the company wasn't run by a south African Nazi
They’ve been great cars. The fit and finish is kind of lackluster, but the cars run great, are fun to drive, and have been extremely reliable.
As a Tesla owner of 7 years, my next car will absolutely not be a Tesla and it is entirely because of Elon Musk.
I appreciate the company spurring competition to enter the market with EVs, but now I hope they crash and burn.
I agree. Many companies have shady practices but very few of them have CEOs that show their shitty character as open as Elon Musk. One important reason of buying an electric car instead of a ICE car is causing less harm / negative impact to the world. And people who make their buying decision based on that in many cases don't appreciate people constantly lying and promoting fachism. I personally won't buy a Tesla as long as he is involved.
If Musk wasn’t with Tesla, I’d consider Tesla an option. And, I’m definitely in the market, my lease runs out in January. But with that idiot, nope. No chance. Doesn’t even have anything to do with Trump support. So I guess he’s right in a way?
Just the other day I saw a Tesla with a bumper sticker stating "I bought this before Elon went crazy."
What does Musk think Trump is going to do for him? Trump has said multiple times he wants to outright ban EVs and increase fuel production and sales. He hates public transportation, so he's not going to support The Loop. He's weirdly obsessed with space, sure, but Trump isn't going to give him money for SpaceX. Is Musk looking for a cabinet position or something?
This is how Authoritarianism works. Trump will ban all EVs with the exception of ones made by his inner circle.
so he’s not going to support The Loop.
Neither does Musk, so same difference.
Yes, he already announced plans for a new Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)
I fucking hate this timeline
Musk thinks Trump will reward his fealty with a cabinet post, where he can then maximize his grift using the government as his cudgel.
It definitely affected me. In retrospect I'm glad I bought a different EV.
Crazy to think about how supremely fucked up musk's deepest core beliefs must truly be, working from a base of growing up in South Africa on the PRO Apartheid sideb with those broken psychopath parents. Like we see plenty from him, but he's aware enough to not say the absolute worst of it out loud.
He's the evil foreign born person they're terrified of. He just ran over to their side so he could point outward to redirect the fingers he feared would point at him. Evil divorced coward
It sucks, where is the 2016 Musk. That dude seemed to really want to help the world.
Tesla was in a difficult position, but was really doing good things, SpaceX was just getting off the ground (pun intended), The Boring Company wasn't a thing yet.
But post 2016, he just seems to get worse and worse, meme coins, weird birther shit....
I used to really want a Tesla, they seemed like a car for me, but now that I am getting close to being able to afford one....well no, I think I'll probably get a polestar. Musk you went from what I would have called a visionary to a joke then kept sliding into actively dangerous. Shame really.
It sucks, where is the 2016 Musk. That dude seemed to really want to help the world
Knowing people who worked with him at the time, 2016 Musk was a PR illusion and nothing more. He's literally always been a giant piece of shit, he just had much better handlers and was able to hide it a lot better so he could get all those sweet government subsidies and commit stock fraud. Literally everything he's ever done has been in the name of gifting money from the government or shareholders in some form or another for personal enrichment. He's never once cared about anyone other than himself.
Musk is now one of the wealthiest people in the world and our justice and financial system have made it clear he won't be punished, so now he can be the same piece of shit he's always been, just publicly, because it's clear there will be basically zero repercussions.
The fall from grace was both spectacular and stunning. I’ve never seen someone trash so much goodwill and in such a short time.
Is that a real picture or AI?
It's edited. In the original you can see Musk's tongue in Trump's mouth.
It's a super super very real picture, bigly real, people are saying...
I mean people are, you know people are asking about the photo folks. Oh my god are they asking about the photo. Over and over, and people are saying folks, let me tell you. Nobody is asking about what’s going on in the White House right now. Nobody, is, asking.
Nobody wants to ask. You know why? You know what sleepy Joe and Kamala are doing in the White House? Right now? As I type this message on lemmy and with minimal effort trying to imitate Trump they are doing crazy things.
They are bringing insane asylums into the US. I don’t know what an asylum seeker is, but we’ll get to the bottom of it.
I mean they're also really shitty cars. As much as the muskrat as poisoned the image of the company, I think a lot of the loss and sales is due to other competitors having caught up and being higher quality.
Whatever happens next month, I doubt Elon’s decision will age well. Even if Trump wins, I would be shocked if he doesn’t turn on Elon within a year.
This is the key takeaway, imo.
Said it dozens of times, Musk's one and only true talent is, or rather was, pumping his stock value.
We done got smart, sumbitch!
I don't drive a Tesla because I have never liked Musk. Apart from that imo the only model that is somewhat good looking is the model S but still very overpriced for what you get.
Dude keeps surprising me with his stupid decisions. Can't imagine the shareholders are happy with his newest pro Trump thing, once again showing he is a huge narcissist.
Aren't they releasing quarterly numbers tommorow? I guess we will see what "all time high" means very soon.
Edit: Earnings release today after market clothes. Earnings call tommorow.
Note, they won't tell how many teslas they sold, but they will report how much their profit was.
I hate that Fred still uses the Roman-numeral-ten site. I emailed him about it and didn’t get a response.