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[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 112 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (9 children)

What a joyful life for that kid. It's not his fault, but he'll be hated by his mom his entire life for it.

Edit: I am pro choice and fucking hate what our country is being turned into by the right.

[–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 69 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Not hated exactly, but there will be knowledge that they weren't wanted. They will blame themselves as kids tend to do. Trauma ensues. What a fucking unnecessary tragedy.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Nah hated is entirely possible. Depends entirely on the mother and if she has the emotional and rational capacity to separate it. If her brain makes her think of her rapist every time she looks at her child, it will be impossible to love it.

I hope she can love it but i wouldnt blame her if she cant.

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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm contemplating about whether parents even should tell them or not? On one hand, the kid kind of has the right to know, on the other hand they'd likely hate themselves for it. Personally I think it's better to end pregnancies that come from rape for those reasons. Even if the parents attempt to look past it, subconsciously they will always be reminded of the rapist when they see the kid and they will act accordingly, whether they want to or not.

[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Kid is gonna read that article. Maybe now, maybe one day. Imagine reading an article about how your mom wishes desperately with all her heart that she didn't have you.

She loves you despite what you are, not because of it. Fuck me.

Yeah I want to admit up top that I have no fucking idea what the right approach is here.

I'm a new parent, but thankfully my kids aren't old enough for me to encounter complicated questions yet.

This might change, but right now my plan is to do my best to avoid cover stories for things. If you're open (as much as is appropriate) and honest (in the context of the delicate situation), that might be better than trying to hide this aspect of the kids ancestry.

As an adult I know that it's possible to simultaneously live a child while acknowledging that an abortion would have been a better option.

I honestly don't know whether a child can understand that.

The thing is, it's not just a conversation with a child. It's lived experience. I'm absolutely confident that my children (we have twins) will know that I love them because of my actions - the time I spend with them every day.

I'm thankful I don't have to navigate this. I would talk to a child psychologist or something to figure out the best way forward. I suspect that will always be communication, but an expert could help you know the best timing, things to watch out for, et cetera.

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

He'll probably starve to death too at the rate we're going.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 79 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I bet he even gets visitation rights. The GOP creates such a beautiful world.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago

Ugh. Stop.

I mean....you're not wrong factually, but all of this is wrong, and I'd just love to stop living now.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 62 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

This is what Republicans want. They cannot imagine passing on their genes any other way.

[–] cowpattycrusader@thelemmy.club 12 points 3 weeks ago

This is absolutely what they want. Force the women into bad positions so they can be more exploitable. Force the children in these situations into bad positions so they can also be more exploitable.

Although, I am sure they prefer the good ol' days when they could just rape their slaves.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I read an article a few days ago that a Republican state argued that they needed to codify abortion bans because their teen pregnancy numbers were dropping.

[–] scala@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

and incest!

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[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How fucked. She told the army and they pretty much threatened to demote her. And when she told the rapist, he ghosted her. No one supported her in getting the abortion, and the adopted parents back out when she was six month. She wanted to work in the space program. That's so terribly tragic.

[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

If the rape didn't ruin her life and steal her autonomy, the FORCED MOTHERHOOD absolutely did.

[–] chalupapocalypse@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago

Death is too little of a punishment for the people enabling this

[–] BlessedDog@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Cruel

I hope your country wakes up and votes for good

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Let's say we do. Let's say Harris wins. In order to even attempt to fix this, Democrats will need to get rid of the filibuster.

They won't get rid of the filibuster.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

The GOP wants to allow rapists to choose the mother of his children

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ya know I have nothing but respect for this woman takes a lot of willpower, probably would've killed the kid myself. But this is why im a guy and single, dont want to risk such instincts making me a monster. That and I aint got a uterus.

[–] elliot_crane@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Same dude. Younger me would have confidently said something boneheaded like “I’d just drink and smoke until a miscarriage”, older me realizes I don’t have any semblance of capability to understand what must be going through this poor woman’s mind. And then even if she had tried something unorthodox to terminate the pregnancy, these sick fucks probably would have tried to put her in jail for it even though she’s the victim.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, I didnt even consider that as a full factor. But then again I can confidently say that my kins women wouldnt care enough to even consider it a factor at all, one of them tried to car bomb a man cause "He slapped my ass" luckily the women are not a majority of my kin. But yeah this whole situation existing is fucked, and I am too much of a unga bunga caveman to consider any solution other than the most direct. See problem kill problem, but no thats "immoral" I sometimes wish I was born back when the Kurgans were still new.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 14 points 3 weeks ago

Imagine being in your golden years and getting a phone call asking if you'd like to see your rape baby grandchild

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks trump!

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

That sounds about right unfortunately. They'd put her on light duty and send her for mental counseling. That would then be used to prevent promotions or re-enlistment.

[–] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Even though my mother is part of the Democratic Party, she told me to vote no to limiting government interference for abortion. Guess what, I will vote yes to it.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wow, you're not going to listen to your mother?? 😬

[–] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well, I want less government intrusion for abortion. So, I voted yes to have abortion more accessible. Healthcare shouldn't be controversial.

[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Good on ya mate

[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

This is so good for capitalism.

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