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Engineers at MIT and in China are aiming to turn seawater into drinking water with a completely passive device that is inspired by the ocean, and powered by the sun.

In a paper appearing today in the journal Joule, the team outlines the design for a new solar desalination system that takes in saltwater and heats it with natural sunlight.

The researchers estimate that if the system is scaled up to the size of a small suitcase, it could produce about 4 to 6 liters of drinking water per hour and last several years before requiring replacement parts. At this scale and performance, the system could produce drinking water at a rate and price that is cheaper than tap water.

https://www.cell.com/joule/fulltext/S2542-4351(23)00360-4

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[–] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Article doesn't mention what the unit does with the salt waste.

I support this 100%, but desalination presents a unique problem: what do we do with all the salt? Maybe the unit uses it for something, but otherwise it just miniaturizes a problem that we're already working on.

[–] Gsus4@feddit.nl 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If this works, it's better than anything we have , which costs grid energy and dumps brine all the same. If anything, the smaller scale makes it easier to distribute and dilute the output brine.

[–] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (14 children)

If sea levels rise as much as they're supposed to, this will be an invaluable tool for an enormous proportion of the country. My concern comes from capitalism getting its hooks into this.

[–] Sternout@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

Wait what country?

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[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 22 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Evaporate it to solid, store it if need be, or distribute it back into the sea in absorbable chunks. The water's ending up back in the sea eventually anyway, see water cycle, so it should be zero sum, just need to avoid local overloads. Seems eminently solvable.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

Depending on the desalination method, you can also harvest lithium while your at it.

[–] DrM@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sounds so easy for you but what to do with the excess salt is the only real problem with desalination that we have for decades now. It's not easy to solve.

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[–] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Eventually is an important word here. With the raise of temperature, the amount of vapor in the air raises too.

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[–] Dewe@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Don’t you just dump it back in the sea? Diluting should make this a minor issue right?

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's what I always thought, but the local effects of hypersalinated water can be terrible for any nearby life

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[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This sounds fantastic on its face, but I seem to keep on hearing about how desalination will solve all kinds of problems and we still have this particular problem.

The missing piece, it seems, is the will for it to be used as infra at scale. Meanwhile selling bottled water taken for free from public lands for several dollars a liter in single-use bottles remains a multi-billion dollar industry. (an industry, I might add, that is aggressive about lobbying to protect its interests)

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[–] BugleFingers@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

SONOFABIT*H, I've been working on a project exactly like this with my friend for a couple years. Hella congrats they got it done and working first but damn :'( I was too slow.

Imma go sadly crush some bugles with my face stones now

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

Keep doing it anyway. They still haven't gotten to market, and I want choices when it comes to my post apocalyptic water suitcases.

[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Zero reason to stop. Until this is put into practice it's just another article promising a future that isn't here.

[–] Spzi@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a great thing to include in your resume if you want them to hire you to keep working on it. Assuming theirs is better and succeeds.

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[–] MaroonMage@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like every week we hear about some huge breakthrough that is supposed to revolutionize clean drinking water technology and save the world, but nothing ever comes of it.

I know this stuff takes time to develop, and not every idea is going to work, but it would be nice if one of these things actually did pan out and start being useful to solve our drinking water issues.

[–] artic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

solving issues isn't profitable

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[–] Gerula@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It's just a giant plastic bag. They catch the runoff with a giant cup.

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[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

All this stuff is like planning to colonize mars before we stop destroying earth. There is plenty of water if we just stop fucking pumping it all out and wasting it.

[–] DanglingFury@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All farmers growing cotton in the middle of the fucking desert along the colorado river basin disagree with you

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Clean freshwater isn’t evenly distributed across the world and it’s not easy or cheap to transport. This kind of tech can help the people that will be most impacted by climate change to survive.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can you believe some people actually drink that stuff straight from the tap? It's like they don't even care about the golf courses at all!

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[–] aphonefriend@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Delete this before Nestle sees it.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“Could”. What kind of fucking title is this?

Either it does or it doesn’t.

[–] key@lemmy.keychat.org 22 points 1 year ago

It's a good title. They don't know if it will be cheaper or not until they go and actually scale it up. Based on the prototype their projections say it should but it's very likely they would run into issues that drive up the cost.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

They do say in the article that they haven't scaled it up yet. If a large version works same as the small version it would do it. Hence "could".

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