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According to its current privacy policy, with an account, Hue gets access to the configuration of your system to provide the right software updates to the devices. It can only use your data for marketing or share it with third parties if you provide additional consent.

However, in a change to the current policy, Yianni says Hue will not collect usage information from users without additional optional consent. “So, we do not require users share anything about how they use our products,” he says.

“Previously creating an account was consent for usage data processing that we are in the process of decoupling and will be decoupled before accounts become essential — that makes sure it’s possible to create an account without sharing usage data,” says Yianni. However, if you choose to use the cloud services for things like out-of-home connectivity, you will need an account, and Hue will process your data, he says.

If this change to the privacy policy does happen, Home Assistant’s Schoutsen agrees that it would make the requirement for an account more palatable. “But it all depends on the exact changes,” he says.

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[–] loops@beehaw.org 86 points 1 year ago (2 children)

With the current system, anyone with physical access to your Hue bridge can take it over just by pressing the button.

If a bad actor has access to your home, I doubt light bulbs will be your main concern...

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're probably the only thing worth stealing in my home.

[–] loops@beehaw.org 29 points 1 year ago
[–] sadreality@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I wonder if a mark... Er customer, ever brought up this concern?

I bet some marketing clown thought it up lol

[–] sanzky@beehaw.org 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just blocked my bridge from accessing the internet. hopefully that will prevent any sneaky update from messing with my local access

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago

Good idea, I'd hate to see them bricking it for use with Home Assistant or anything like that.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't buy shit that's remote controlled by a corporation. If you can't use it offline you haven't bought it at all.

[–] sanzky@beehaw.org 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

the issue is that Hue devices can actually be used offline without issues. They are changing that retroactively for users.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Better get them offline right away then, before they're updated.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a lesson in this...

[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Buy more IoT stuff because nothing ever goes wrong?

[–] noride@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You will still be able to use them completely offline after you complete the setup process, it's in the article. Regardless, I only have a couple devices, so it'll be pretty painless for me to rip em out.

[–] sanzky@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

requiring an account seems to be like a first step to remove this ability

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn't the whole point of Phillip's Hue's devices + bridge supposed to be that it could all be operated locally?

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

Traditional non-smart bulbs also work locally, and for a lot less money.

[–] HumbleFlamingo@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

That's why I went with them. Good thing I only have a few so far and can put a pause on buying more until this shakes out.

[–] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago

Here's what that means - demand a refund, start a class action suit, idk every corp is doing this rug pull at the same time hoping they can get in before the law catches up.

How does one start a class action suit?

[–] n1ckn4m3@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I gave them a crap review in the Android app store because of it -- I have absolutely no need for my lights to be able to be controlled over the internet outside of my house, and I don't want the feature nor do I want my hue bulbs connected via any stupid cloud link so they COULD be managed over the internet outside of my house. Their response was "as we add new features, so too do we add new security features to protect the platform and that justifies us requiring you to have a login and make your devices controllable via the cloud". Uh huh.

I've set the Android app to never automatically update in the future and I'm really hopeful that I can avoid this garbage requirement by doing so, but I'm sure they've thought of it and I'm going to end up having to move to 3rd party apps to control them eventually.

[–] Eryn6844@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

god i hate this crap. what is the alternative to this intrusive shit from companies? is the diy home automation, and software? i know have hear of a few out there, also that its hard to setup.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 1 year ago

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Click here to see the summaryAfter launching a new security system last month and finally making good on its promise to support Matter, the company is now requiring users to sign up for a Hue account to use its app.

Signify has a page on its site with details on what benefits you get from an account, but I reached out to find out why this change was being made and exactly what it means for your devices and data.

“What we will over time change is that if you want to have an overview and to manage which applications and users have access to your Hue system, you will need to be logged into your account,” says Yianni.

This is good news for people who have or plan to have more than 50 lights and accessories (the current limit on existing bridges), as it will make it easier to expand their system.

If you don't want to sign up for an account, you can still circumnavigate the Hue app by directly integrating the bridge (and its connected accessories) into a platform such as Apple Home.

In both of these cases, you lose the features of the Hue app, such as scenes and automations, but you can control the lights locally in your home with no cloud integration and no need to create an account.


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[–] technologicalcaveman@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can't turn on the lights, i forgot my password

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't get into my house, I forgot the code

These people are solving issues that don't need to be solved IMHO

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Solving problems is hard, and of questionable profitability given the difficulty.

Solving non-problems, or even better, non-problems that you yourself have turned into problems... That's where the money is.

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Hue lights also works from the light switch just like a normal bulb.