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powered by hydrogen fuel cells
I don't think the logistics for hydrogen fuel cells will help in actual combat situations, though it's expected to enter operation in 2040 anyway.
autonomous driving and slave drones
Hopefully one that actually works. As for the drones, I guess for reconnaissance?
You can load a truck with fuel cells to extend range beyond what the current infrastructure can handle.
It's more complicated with batteries that need to be charged. Sure, there's a grid in many places, but if combat capability depends on the grid, it'll get targetted. And even before that, capacity is a concern and if the grid can handle a tank battalion wanting to plug in every tank so they can be ready for whatever comes next ASAP.
Fuel cells mean they can set up behind the front lines and use power more predictably and refuel tanks quicker than gas.
I never really understood what fuel cells have to do with hydrogen, and why it's a more appealing form factor than removing a vehicle's gas tank and instead just putting in a manifold with room for a number of some standard of gas can with valves fitted. It's not an inherently "hydrogen" thing.
Besides, it's fully possible to set up a bunch of gas cans from a truck in the same way you could set up a bunch of hydrogen "fuel cells".
By my understanding fuel cells are less about form factor, and more about directly converting the fuel into electricity across a membrane, like how batteries operate, so like a battery that takes in Hydrogen on one terminal and Oxygen on the other, being more efficient than burning it in an engine and trying to recapture some of that as electricity after thermal and friction losses have eaten into it.
So it is more a replacement for the engine than it is for the fuel tank. Wikipedia
What RTS is this from?
No one here but us trees
I am waiting for the non-destructible forever Toyota tank. Just make sure insurgents dont get their hands on one.
That a few thousand dollar drone will obliterate.
More like few hundred. Slap an old rpg on an fpv and there you go.
My brain just doesn't want to accept the idea of a stealth tank. It kind of feels like building a stealth monster truck, or creating sugar free Pez. It's like being loud is part of what it's supposed to do.
Not to fet credible, but from a treeline 2km away a properly disguised tank can be pretty stealthy. Same concept of stealth aircraft, yeah if its close you're gonna see it, but if passive and active sensors can pick it up till visual range, well mighty fine way to sneak a platoon of tanks into an otherwise 'observed' area while looking like little more than a couple of civilian vehicles or migrating animals to a radar, or dull spot to thermals.
Famously transporting large volumes of hydrogen has never gone wrong and hydrogen charging stations have proven very reliable and also hydrogen as an alternative to electric is definitely not a ploy by big oil to keep drilling for fossil fuels!
Good job hyundai 👍 Very credible 👍🏿
H2 tanks are safer than diesel. It would make a superior tank to diesel in most ways. Quiet, electronics power, portable solar charging in forward position, H2 production in solar rear stations. In war, having all of your large oil refineries and port handling blown up the first day is common, and decentralized and portable H2 production is an important asset.
ROK while leading on H2, is way behind on both solar transition projects/roadpath and have abandoned solar technology themselves. Government does serve its industrial champions but also serves US master. US wants to subjugate colonies to its NG. Industrial champion needs clean energy independence.
Do you even realize how much energy is needed to produce significant amounts of hydrogen and then compressing it to a useful pressure? FOB solar isn't going to cut it. Decentralized H2 production isn't a viable thing without fossil fuels or a working power grid.
For sure, field charging of tanks should be through DC. But H2 is the solution for energy abundance that is 100% renewables based. To have enough energy every day from renewables needs surpluses on most days, and H2 production is the best use of those surpluses because it is transportable/exportable energy that happens to be cheaper than electric transmission.
No no, it’s credible because it decreases the ground weight, and if you fill it up enough, it can just float over AT mines 🤓
From Hyundai to Hindenburg very fast 👏 👏 👏
Hyundenbyurg 👌
In the case of military vehicles, hydrogen is about the greenest option that we're gonna get. No one is going to make a battery powered AFV, because where the fuck would you charge it?
Who if not the Germans built an electric tank in 2020 https://efahrer.chip.de/news/geraeuschlose-einsaetze-weltweit-erster-elektro-panzer-kommt-aus-deutschland_103179
Sounds crazy at first but comes with some good advantages: it can cross rivers as it doesn’t need air for combustion, it’s silent, and you can load it anywhere at the battle field if you have solar panels, time and sun. Still you can rely on military logistics to carry a swap battery. But isn’t the military supply chain the first target to disrupt? My two cents, this is the next thing at battle fields.
Oh, and if all your equipment runs on electricity, you can load and reload power at your needs. Tank needs power but car not? Combat robot out if power and car is full? Transfer the power
Range of tanks is not super important other than blitzkrieg strategy where refueling infrastructure catches up. Even under blietzkrieg, tanks eventually get into a siege position and solar can be enough to sustain their position indefinitely. H2 is the best quick refueling method for electric heavy vehicles. A dispenser can be hidden 1 mile or so behind the front lines. Production facilities can be portable and moved forward
My dude, the military transports more volatile materials than hydrogen every day. Just because something doesn't make sense for civilian use doesn't mean it's never going to be viable for military use.
If you're worried about the dangers of transporting something like hydrogen, you're going to lose it when you find out what bombs are made out of.
Electric motors are just more efficient in just about every way at scale, the current diesel motors being used in tanks aren't really able to be improved upon. They're at their technological peak, so the only way to move forward with mbt is by figuring out how to make electric motors work.
Does noise really matter that much on a modern battlefield with one surveillance drone every 200 meters?
the other feature is low to no heat, so these things are like tank drop bears
drop bears
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The next-generation tank will have stronger preemptive strike capabilities using an artificial intelligence-based fire control system
Well that's disturbing. I wonder what level of buzz word AI this is? Safe to assume computer vision is involved, target/threat identification... Does "preemptive strike" imply the fire control system is firing by itself? I know it's not the case but it's hilarious to imagine it's ChatGPT doing it.
My heart smiles at the thought of the first crew to actually command this thing in a war zone pulling security on some unknown pile of rubble and being awoken at 0347 by their tank unexpectedly dumping its entire payload on an "enemy" that it hallucinated.
Granted, dumb privates do this too, but it's funnier to think about the tank doing it all by itself.
This could even be exploited by putting decoys in the landscape the AI recognizes as enemies.
Very easily
