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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 127 points 1 year ago (1 children)

whats to watch. a bunch of un-empathetic sycophants pretending to have a platform or relevance to an audience already "not votin for a lib"

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was even worse than you're imagining.

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I dunno, I'm imagining them doing the Nazi salute to punctuate the end of their hate speech.

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Watching a bunch of assholes "debate" (read: regurgitate canned talking points on cue) who are only going to lose the primary to a bigger asshole, who is even in the room, is kinda pointless. Especially when said bigger asshole already lost one general election and may well be on track to lose an other one., So, we could either watch losers who are losing to a loser; or, spend our time more productively. Like say, insulting said losers on the internet. Not a hard choice.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (5 children)

We need to be mindful that he can win the general election too. Lots of angry white racists out there and even more evangelicals.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No need to get white into it, racist is sufficient. Trump has plenty of black and Hispanic supporters. I don't know if they are all racists, but they are definitively assholes.

[–] Wooster@startrek.website 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah… he lost the general election, but only by a hair, and a LOT of work went into grabbing last minute votes.

The most dangerous thing you can do is be complacent.

We need to vote and we need to get others to vote.

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Ya, while I was being flippant about it, I do agree that Trump has a very real chance of winning the General Election. I well remember the noise over polling in 2016 and Nate Silver's epic rant (he was right) about how the data should be looked at.

I'm curious to see how things shake out in the General Election this time around. And I wonder if Biden's Campaign will lean into Trump's criminal actions. In 2016, Trump's campaign pushed the "lock her up!" narrative over Clinton's email server. Now that we have clear evidence of Trump mishandling, hiding and attempting to hang onto clearly marked classified information (some of which is clearly SCI or NNPI), will we get choruses of "lock him up!"? At the same time, Trumpets seem to revel in Trump's crimes and prosecution as almost a badge of honor and/or an underdog fighting "the man". The irony of Trump pretty much being the definition of "the man" seems lost on his supporters. But hey, no one ever said politics has to make sense.

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[–] dyathinkhesaurus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does this mean they eventually got "tired of winning"? Or are they now trying to win at losing too?

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[–] insomniac@sh.itjust.works 74 points 1 year ago

This is incredibly obvious but it’s stated this way because a more honest headline would be uninteresting. The last time there was a serious Republican primary was 2015.

So they’re saying debate ratings are lower than the last time there wasn’t an obvious front runner. Yeah, no shit cnbc. Good job.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, they have nothing interesting to say, no policies to discuss, and are a black hole of charisma.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ramaswamy has ideas about policies. But they're horrible policies.

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[–] RaineV1@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

That last part is all that really matters in this case. None of them can make their insanity interesting to watch without the reality TV star around.

[–] Kalcifer@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

[...] lowest viewership since 2015

Hasn't there only been one other debate since then...? That's rather misleading.

[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

lowest ratings since the first one a little bit ago.

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[–] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would you want to watch? They're all a bunch of losers and one worse than the next. They're the current failures that rose to the top.

None have compelling arguments or solutions and are only there to shitsling each other. Even monkeys at the zoo are smarter.

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[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So in other words, lower than the ones in 2019?

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[–] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Who wants to watch a bunch of mentally ill psychopaths talk over each other? I sure don’t.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wasn't Jersey shore insanely popular?

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Not the tryouts for it.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They were running their mouths not trying to run the country.

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[–] jmd_akbar@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To the most of the world, they are "mentally ill psychopaths", but to their rabid supporters, they can do no wrong. They will still watch them, cheer them on, and support them and vote for them...

[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

That’s the thing, though. They don’t actually have rabid supporters. Trump does, and they want his supporters to support them.

That’s why no one is interested in watching their debates. The people who actually care about debates aren’t interested in their nonsense, and the ones whose vote they are courting are just waiting for Trump to give them the Go signal.

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[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's Republicans debating against each other? Like aren't they all the same?

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I'm a piece of shit."

"No I'm a piece of shit!"

"Heh... that's cute. I'm the biggest piece of shit."

rapturous applause

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Narrator: The audience was the biggest piece of shit, after all...

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

It is a championship of "Who is the most shitty politition behind Trump".

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] dynamojoe@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nobody wants to watch a bunch of losers kiss the ass of an elephant who isn't even in the room (honorable mention to C. Christie who clearly does not kiss Trump's ass)

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chris Christie. Maybe the least smelly turd in the group. He still smells like shit and now the question is whether he's only trying to separate himself from the others while still planning to deliver the exact same steaming mess any of them would. Is he hedging his bet that trump is falling to the charges?

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

At this point, they all are counting on the chance that he won't be able to run for one reason or another.

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[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Couldn't watch it without a cable subscription or signing up for a streaming service. That's probably at least part of it.

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[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

"Are you not entertained?"

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

But didn't they watch in the hopes that Vivek would spit out some rhymes? Vivek rhymes with cake, you know.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was a second Republican primary debate?

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[–] aircooledJenkins@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I had no idea it was happening. None.

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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

They are all running for VP candidate but are too dumb to realize it.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're well aware of it, it's why they're not really badmouthing Trump.

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