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People considering 'cancelling' new iPhone order after seeing comparison between older generation::Some have noticed the new iPhone 15 is not as strong or as durable as the older generations of iPhones.

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[–] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 179 points 11 months ago (3 children)

How does this deserve to be called a news article??

[–] fische_stix@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's almost like buying something as soon as it comes out brings the risk that it won't be in full working order and will still have significant flaws. I'm not sure that that's exactly news. But the fact that people who are so in love with the iPhone that they are willing to get rid of a perfectly good working iPhone and unnecessarily upgrade for vanity are willing to back out is moderately interesting/telling. I feel like the pre-order group in any market is always surprised when the thing they pre-ordered is not 100% as good as they were promised. But then they will continue to pre-order...

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Products should be in full working order upon release. If it is not, it was not ready to be released.

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 3 points 11 months ago

AAA game devs leave the chat

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[–] orizuru@lemmy.sdf.org 81 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

Why someone keeps chasing the latest gadgets when the old ones work just fine is beyond me.

Nobody is waiting every year for the brand new line of washing machines. Why is there a need to swap phones this frequently?

[–] serratur@lemmy.wtf 40 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Good point, I need to check when the new washing machine from LG is being released.

[–] ConditionOverload@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I hope mine connects to Wi-Fi so I can automatically Tik Tok my spin cycles!

[–] ensignrick@startrek.website 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't give the idiots ideas

[–] Massada42@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago
[–] tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 3 points 11 months ago

Not only have they thought of that, they charge a premium for it. Of course it doesn't work and the accompanying software is lowest bidder shit that has never been tested in the real world... but what do they care, they have your money.

[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

Thanks for reminding me this is the last LG phone I'll ever own. :(

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[–] ensignrick@startrek.website 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Back when smartphones actually had big leaps in tech in made sense pre 2015 or so. Now, it's very small interative changes. It makes no sense.

[–] PHLAK@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is part of the reason. For a decade every year the new devices actually came with new and actually improved features.

However, the other part of the problem is the way these devices were and continue to be marketed. Having a big event to talk every little improvement up and overhype the new devices works to some degree.

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[–] dojan@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Maybe they have a six year old phone and are interested in upgrading? I don't think that many people are doing yearly upgrades nowadays, it's expensive and pointless.

[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not even six. I switched from SE 2020 to 15 pro. The battery was awful. This one should easy last me till the next major change, which is replaceable batteries forced by EU.

[–] BertramDitore@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is my situation. My SE 2020 battery is complete shit, and the screen is getting more messed up by the day, with two permanent thin lines going down the center of the phone. I'm a reluctant Apple user, but I think I need to upgrade--and I've been eyeing the 15 Pro. I'd like it to last a while. How are you liking it?

[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So smoooooth compared to the SE. Night and day. I love it. The island is fun to watch (when music is playing the waveform actually reacts to it, it’s not a looped animation :3). Finally I don’t need the lighting cable. I charge the battery to 80% overnight, from 7:30am to now (11:43pm), without charging during the day, now I have 26%. Although that’s after 3h of screen time + AOD. No overheating so far, and idk if the back will break, I’m not planning on bending the phone lol. Can’t say much about the titanium as I’m always wearing a case (shoutout Spigen <3). Face ID is so much better than Touch ID. As long as you don’t wear sunglasses glasses (maybe I need to create another profile). The cameras are fun for a bit but they’re a gimmick after a while for me. The selfie camera is MUCH better and so is low light performance. I don’t like that it’s hard to reach notifications and control centre, but ig that’s the price of a bigger screen. Sorry for jumping from topic to topic lol. Let me know if you have any more questions ;)

[–] BertramDitore@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Ahh thank you for all the details! You called out all the stuff I care about, I think I'm sold. I'm psyched about the USB C cable, that's the main reason I haven't just gone for a 14. I was and still am a little worried about Face ID though, I never had any problems with Touch ID and thought I might miss it. I don't want my phone to have to look at me before it unlocks...seems weird. Whatever, gotta give up something. Might just switch back to a PIN.

[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I’ve got a 12 and will be upgrading to a 15 Pro mainly due to my current phone having a scratch and I really want the USB-C charging option so that I can finally have a single charger type for everything.

Outside of the USB-C change, I don’t see much of a difference between my current 12 and the base 15, hence why I’m going for the 15 Pro. If not for the USB-C, I’d be sticking with my lightly-scratched 12.

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[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Updated from iPhone X to 14pro.

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

When it comes to Android, updates. Especially for some of the cheaper phones where they don't support updates past the next version of Android.

Which really only matters to people that actually give a shit about updates. A lot of people in Android spaces online seem absolutely flummoxed by this but many people simply do not care or actively dislike "the latest and greatest" updates. They tend to change things people liked, they increasingly break functionality in the name of "security", and they often come with UI changes people find frustrating.

If the user is comfortable with their device, many would like it to stay that way. And that's not an invalid feeling.

I used to anticipate Android updates, but ever since 10, I've had zero desire to upgrade further. I'm not buying a new phone for the benefit of having my file explorer broken.

Some people will call you stupid for this, because it leaves you vulnerable to exploits that don't get patched, but whatever.

[–] StopSpazzing@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Pixel 8 comes with 7 years of OS updates. Also pure OS so no preinstalled bloatware. For all Pixel devices so far, with a click of a setting can unlock the boot loader to root and flash custom roms as suggest by user below. IDK why anyone would use anything but Pixel phones for their Android experience.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

I would use a custom ROM/root the phone, but I also hate SAF. If you like cuatomisablity, and control over your own device however, it would make no sense to get an iPhone.

[–] RTRedreovic@feddit.ch 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

For Apple products there is the petty "status symbol" thing. If I share my experience, my father has a mania of buying such stuff only for the sake of imagining that he is on some position where he is like, "Oh I own this and that, you peasants won't understand." The macbook he bought many months ago now lies dusted on a shelf because it is practically useless to everyone in the household at the moment. It's a total waste of money for something no one cares about but him. I do not argue about it as it is a waste of time for me. It's his dogma and his money. I have a more rational mindset of looking at things with a materialistic approach i.e. analytically measuring an object's use value rather than its prestige.

[–] Oneobi@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Yah, good job I have zero interest in Apple products so I can't actually tell the difference when they start to brag about their phones!

Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

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[–] HugeCounterargument@lemm.ee 57 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Anyone else find it really hard to take articles seriously when they obviously haven’t proofread it at all?

“iPhone q5” etc.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You know what? I'll accept that. That's a decent indicator that the article was written by a human who missed the 1 key and hit the Q key just below it, and not a chatbot.

[–] HugeCounterargument@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

It does make me wonder which I hate worse, that’s for sure.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago

Until you realize AI can replicate human error as well. 😜

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

The kind of people who will buy this phone when last year's one is perfectly fine still, are not the kind of people who will cancel when they find out it's not worth the upgrade cost.

They're all about the latest fad, that's all.

[–] overzeetop@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Steel ( including stainless) is up to twice as stiff as titanium - meaning it flexes half as much under load for the same thickness/shape. It’s also almost twice as heavy. To get a rigid material that is also lightweight, you need to look at exotic alloys like beryllium-aluminum, but the trade off I’d often poor toughness (fracture resistance) and difficult manufacture.

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Last I checked, these phones are full of glass. And glass is incredibly rigid - far more rigid than steel (and lighter than steel too). Also, glass doesn't block light or radio waves or magnetic fields... which is the why basically all of modern phones are full of glass.

Anyway, since there's so much glass, the titanium doesn't need to be rigid. It just needs to be able to handle an impact reasonably well and look nice. Titanium does both better than steel.

The primary metal in these phones is Aluminium by the way. That metal is very soft and doesn't look great especially once you've dropped the phone. There's a thin Titanium outer coating somehow bonded to the Aluminium - they have a single piece of metal made of with two completely different metals. Clearly Apple isn't afraid of making a phone that's difficult to manufacture.

There's probably 20x more aluminium than titanium in the phone. Aluminium is very light... and it's drawback (scratches/dents easily) is eliminated by the 1mm of titanium bonded to it.

[–] overzeetop@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

The thin glass substrates do add some rigidity, but the more rigid a frame the less stress is borne by the glass under impact. I would not be surprised to find the frame is mostly Al. It’s light, and strong - common, properly tempered alloys are as strong (yield, not ult) or stronger than stainless. Of course the 1/3 density comes with just 1/3 stiffness. No free lunches.

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People who preorder a phone are out of their fucking mind, simple as that.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

You have to if you want the device in the next month or so. The model I was looking at slipped to November less than 24 hours after pre-orders started.

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