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[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Brave of him to assume he'll still be alive by year four

Forever could be thankfully short thanks to his awful health and lifestyle.

But then these damn Skeksis stay on the throne a lot longer than should be possible.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It’s not a joke! For heaven’s sake, media, it’s not a joke!

[–] Event_Horizon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Exactly. And this isn't even the first time he's said it!

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

All it takes is one fair election to be won decisively by an autocrat. The democratic party handed it to this shit head. Worst yet, he doesn't even have to rig the election system because the democrat party is fucking incapable of attracting voters and it doesn't look like they are going to fix what is broken about the party.

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I would not worry that this guy stays around too long,he might croak.

Then fucking Elon is going to take over

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago

I would not worry

People keep saying that, yet here we are.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 17 points 5 hours ago

Cheeto ain't joking about power.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 20 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Good thing he's old AF and overweight. Maybe that will impact him even before this term is done...

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 17 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, President Vance? Every option has us screwed no matter how long Trump lasts

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'd put down $50 on his administration taking measures to get Trump out of the way to install Vance.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Remember that he went off the rails on Truth Social about the 25th amendment basically ranting about the chain of command when the president is incapacitated. It seemed like a weird one but I remember reading it and my first thought was "He found out his people are gonna throw him out with a dementia diagnosis."

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The one benefit of Vance replacing Trump is that he doesn't have a cult like Trump does.

[–] Hazor@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I suspect (naively hope?) Vance would be less inclined to just hand over national security information to Putin, so .. maybe two benefits?

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

What about his behavior to date makes you think that? I feel like that sounds snarky but I don't intend it that way.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 31 points 11 hours ago

George W. Bush made a joke about being a dictator, but never tried to actually be one. Trump has been trying to be a dictator from the moment he was born...

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 21 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I don't see him lasting his full term. Dude's old, is incredibly unhealthy, and has enough power-mad people around him that the first sign of weakness will probably be enough for medical intervention and Vance becoming president. Becoming president AGAIN at his age is possibly the dumbest thing he can do for his health.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 20 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Sadly his Klan loving father lived to 93, and being POTUS is like having a dedicated one person ER following you around.

Also, the office only ages you if you're committed to performing the job, Trump uses the office to troll the people he can troll and, more urgently, personally profit for anyone that offers him or his businesses a bribe in exchange for a Presidential act. He doesn't work even in business, he issues broad, pie in the sky dictates and encourages his own employees infighting about the details. He's bragged about this.

Trump was the first President in my lifetime to accelerate the aging of those he governed rather than himself. Like so many other things people seem to forget, he spent a lot of his first term golfing.

Not that I'm complaining on that point, golf motherfucker! Do less!

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 10 points 10 hours ago

This is something I don't think they even acknowledge or think about. Some of their shit in comparing him to Hitler (and they do that in a positive manner) is when they claim that some of the shit that is happening to him is like him being imprisoned after the Beer Hall Putsch (referring to Jan 6th). This is stupid. Hitler was barely in his early 30s at the time and he was actually at the START of his political career. Trump was never imprisoned and when he did his shit he already had very real political power that Hitler never had in 1923.

Trump the oldest presidential nominee ever and I hope that he will stay the oldest. We don't need that kind of geriatic shit in any political office anywhere.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 39 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Let me get this right. So, you know exactly who this man is and what he stands for. Yet, you elect him anyway. You know he's been "joking" about this before. Yet, you elect him anyway. He's a convicted felon. Yet, you elect him anyway.

I've lost every smidgen of respect I had for Americans. You went into this with eyes wide open. You deserve what's coming.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

I’ve lost every smidgen of respect I had for Americans.

Says the guy who is happy to damn tens of millions of people who didn't vote for this (not to mention all the kids and such) right along with those who did.

[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Let me get this right. So, you know exactly who this man is and what he stands for. Yet, you elect him anyway. You know he's been "joking" about this before. Yet, you elect him anyway. He's a convicted felon. Yet, you elect him anyway.

I've lost every smidgen of respect I had for Americans. You went into this with eyes wide open. You deserve what's coming.

60% of eligible voters didn't vote. It can be debated if they are complacent or if party leadership didn't Sufficiently motivate them to vote

Of the 40% eligible voters that did vote, 50% voted for trump and 48% voted for Harris.

So depending on how you look at it, 19% of eligible voters actively didn't vote for Trump, or 20% of eligible voters actively voted for Trump.

We could also go on to say that, of those who voted for trump, there was a portion that was not informed which could partially be blamed on the media as well as party leaderships. Some of them are just in a cult mentality and while that doesn't excuse their behavior, they are actively being manipulated. And then there are a bunch of voters who genuinely just want to watch the world burn.

I'm sure we could dissect this many ways, but i can can't see how everyone deserves what's coming. For example , I didn't ask for this. I actively volunteered my time to try to prevent it. Yeah, a good chunk of Americans are idiots. But not all of us deserve what's coming. Fuck that.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 16 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You deserve what’s coming.

You're talking to the people who tried to stop him, so fuck off.

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

He's talking broadly, to Americans. Which you and I are. And he's right, we deserve this. As a country.

As an individual, neither of us do, since we fought and voted against him. But that's not what OP was saying. He wasn't addressing you specifically, but our nation in the second person.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

nope, it's the usual European smug superiority complex I see all over Lemmy, as if they don't have the same problems there (not to mention have had in the past). They can enjoy gloating until the same thing happens in their country, which won't be long.

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You could be correct.

However, Europe's "right" is America's "left".

The political situation might be semantically similar, but the political policymaking is a vastly different situation between the two.

Europe, universally, believes in healthcare as a right, for example.

[–] uxia@midwest.social 1 points 1 hour ago

It struck me reading your comment that there is literally nothing that all Americans believe in "universally" and that makes me super sad.

[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 31 points 13 hours ago (10 children)

I voted for Kamala, and got a handful of others to as well, don't include me with the rest of them. I don't deserve this.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, not only did I vote against this, my demographic hit 94% for Harris.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago

Same. I voted on the first day of early voting, and convinced my nephew and his two best friends to cast their first (and likely last) votes. My niece is 15; I'm sure she'll be glad to hear she "deserves" what's coming.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

Long as his "forever" ends at or before 2027

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