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Some YouTube Premium subscribers complain of seeing ads (www.androidheadlines.com)
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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 hours ago

I'd bet that channel "members" don't get ads for that channel regardless of premium status.

IMO, Google made premium, almost nobody bought it. So they went after adblockers, hoping that people would get premium to get rid of the ads. People most just Adblock harder.

While this is happening, one exec is peering over the fence at twitch. Where they only way to get away from ads without a pretty good Adblock, is to subscribe to the individual creator.

So they make "memberships" to channels a thing.

Almost nobody buys that either. So they go... What if, even if someone is premium, we give them ads, unless they're a channel member.

Genius.

Paying to block ads per creator/channel/whatever, is a special level of bullshit that twitch has always had.

The system is working as expected. The companies are trying to find the best way to extract the most value from you using their platform.

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 4 points 2 hours ago

Suckers paying for it

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The second i see an ad in cancelling my subscription

[–] FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 minutes ago

Same.

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 18 points 6 hours ago

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Good, I hope they raise pricing too and pay creators even less. Make it hurt. It's the only language users understand apparently.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 31 points 11 hours ago

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 51 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

What ads? (User without premium, but proper browser and adblocker)

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

What I find the most hilarious is that on a rooted Android phone there is an app that hooks into the YouTube app and eliminates adds in it. Even when my PC with Firefox and UBlock get temporarily blocked in the battle between Google and ad blockers my phone using the standard app still doesn't have adds.

I don't know something about it is very satisfying to me.

[–] cellardoor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Just use Grayjay.

Or if not that amazing app, the Revanced app.

[–] gunpachi@lemmings.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Do you mind sharing the name of the app please?

Although I always use NewPipe / Tubular and Revanced as a backup solution.

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It's an LSposed/XPosed based app called YouTube Adaway. It also enables background playback.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Firebox mobile + unlock origin extension + YouTube.com.

You get everything that YouTube premium can offer. Including screen off play.

[–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 4 hours ago

On mobile you can use ReVanced.

[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 100 points 14 hours ago (7 children)

u/Dangerous-Pizza7054 from the article,

Seems like the user tracking "special promotion" overrides the premium. They don't even say whether it's expected or not. But my take away is that paying for premium may or may not show you ads, but you are definitely tracked and harvested for data. (Maybe even more so, since, well, you are more valuable to them.)

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

That has been my specific issue with paying for any Google product always. I understand when I am using a product for free that I am not necessarily the customer and that money has to be made off of me or the users more generally somehow. That's "fine" (ish, not really, but that has more to do with issues of security than anything).

However when I pay for a product or service, I want to now be the customer and I want to be in control of my data and have the company cater to me. If, when paying for a Google service, there was some legally relevant things in place that insured I was no longer being tracked and used to generate revenue via third parties I would gladly pay. Probably more than they are charging now, but instead they want to have it both ways which is just not OK with me.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago

Well yes, you didn't get first ads. But what about second ads?

[–] doughless@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Wait, I haven't seen ads on YouTube Premium (yet), and I'm just now realizing this could very likely be because Google knows my wife and I don't watch sports.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

At least a subscription includes YouTube music? Isn't that interesting and relevant.

[–] alphabethunter@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

That part of the support email almost made me puke of how fucking awful it was. "Why complain about ads when you get YouTube Music for free by paying us money"

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 24 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

So premium users put their data on a pedestal for Google? That's fun

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 12 points 12 hours ago

That's generally; if you have an account, you are easier to track for them.

[–] ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world 18 points 12 hours ago

I got the same Sunday banner in the middle of the screen similar to where shorts show up. Never in my life have I watched or cared for American football. Clearly a waste of money for the advertising company since I just closed it by pressing the x same as shorts on desktop.

[–] mlen@awful.systems 27 points 13 hours ago

ublock is cheaper and actually works

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 131 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

If this goes live, I'm out. YT premium is my most expensive subscription, but I watch enough YouTube that I'm OK with it, especially considering that it supports creators more than ad viewers. If I still get ads? Nah dawg. I'll divy up that money amongst patreons or whatever, and install add blockers.

[–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (6 children)

If your main reason for paying premium is for ad blocking, I’d suggest just cancelling it now and using ad blockers. If you want to support creators, I’d say that it’s better to cancel and subscribe to a few patreons - I’d pick some of the smaller creators you like, to spread some of that support around a bit.

If you use iOS devices for watching YouTube, look into side-loading uYou+, it’s basically an edited YouTube app that removes most of the ads. You can stream from your phone to the apple TV, too, also without ads.

Not sure what the android equivalent is, but someone else will know - hopefully they will share in the comments also.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I use it because it came with Play Music, now YouTube Music. I'll just switch to Spotify if I see them.

[–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 hours ago

I stopped using streaming platforms personally and just went back to pirating music. Personally I don’t want to support Spotify because they continue to support far-right ideology with their podcasts, but that’s a completely personal decision.

[–] puntyyoke@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Reasonable advice, but I'd note that I pay for premium and patreon specifically because I can only afford patreon for a few creators. I'd rather pay everyone I watch. While YouTube isn't perfect, I like the service enough that I don't mind paying for it.

[–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, of course - you should do what you think is best. I was thinking that if everyone cancels their YT Premium and signs up for a few Patreons, distributed as randomly as possible (which is why I said to go for the smaller creators) then overall creators would get more money, while we’d still be paying less. Everyone wins - except Google, but fuck Google!

[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Wait... You can sideload on ios? Since when?

[–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Since at least a couple of years ago - it requires a bit of jumping through hoops, but it’s 100% worth it to get ad-free YouTube on iPhone!

You can do it in any country as far as I know, it’s not EU-only.

[–] MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

not on US devices without jailbreaking, but I think you can on EU devices.

[–] rowdyrockets@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago

You can on any iOS device without jailbreaking. Look into AltStore or Sidestore. The caveat is that you can only sign 3 apps at a time, and must resign these apps every week - which is done over your WiFi to a PC running AltStore server.

If you have a $99/year Apple developer account, you can use AltStore to sign as many apps as you like, and you only need to resign once per year.

[–] thegr8goldfish@startrek.website 1 points 5 hours ago

SmartTubeNext has been working fairly well for me for like 5 years or something. It's super easy to side load on a Fire stick.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 26 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Why don’t you just cancel it now and use ad blockers?

Joel explains this in the second sentence: "I’m OK with it, especially considering that it supports creators more than ad viewers"

[–] freeman@feddit.org 3 points 6 hours ago

I mean you can probably support all the creators you like in other ways: Buying merch, donating onetime, signing up for a patreon, subscribing to nebula (if they are on there), ...

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[–] Sprucie@feddit.uk 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

ReVanced is great on Android, it also enables other YouTube premium features such as picture-in-picure mode.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 3 points 6 hours ago

I used to use Vanced but switched to Newpipe, as it is noticeably lighter (also at least for me, downloads did not properly work while they were fine on Newpipe).

[–] 299792458ms@lemmy.zip 135 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I guess they are premium ads?

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 71 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

this but unironically

advertisers paid a premium

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Ad companies have the new subscription tier of Premium Buster, so now you have to upgrade to Premium Buster Buster

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

You can't triple stamp a double stamp, you can't triple stamp a double stamp!

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