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A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it's related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, KBin, etc).

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 4 points 40 minutes ago (1 children)

Bluesky: You are immediately and automatically welcomed into the warm embrace of an algorithm that entices you into a parasocial relationship with the synthetic community it has created.

Mastodon: If you're lucky you'll stumble across a warm welcome for new users explaining how posts are called toots here, likes are called florps, and our version of Grok is called Garfiald.

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 38 minutes ago (1 children)

But that's not true for Bluesky. The only feed that you see when newly registering is the Following feed which is chronological.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 2 points 33 minutes ago (1 children)

That's not how it was as of yesterday when I signed up just to see what all the fuss was about. (I don't think I'll be participating.)

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 28 minutes ago

Ok true, I think I forgot that you also see the Discover feed? But you can just remove that from your feeds and add any feed you like or just use the Following feed.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

🤷‍♂️ there's got to be some place for the average person to go without being screamed at by some nerd calling them a boot licker.

I also think the "confusion" of fediverse is overblown. People aren't confused. First adopters who don't want to be screamed at by flying squid aren't telling friends and family to join.

The people here and their attitude towards people who don't agree with them are the problem.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The people here and their attitude towards people who don’t agree with them are the problem.

And that's a structural problem. The ActivityPub was supposed to allow both the "average person" and the "nerd" to coexist in the same platform, without one getting too much in the way of the other; it doesn't.

I'm not sure on a good solution for that.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

They don't coexist peacefully in life, why would they do it here?

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 26 minutes ago

They tolerate each other enough to get each into a corner and not interact much.

And yet that is not what we see in the Fediverse. Those "corners" don't exist here.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

My nerd and techy friends, even the more progressive ones, do just fine in most places.

Lemmy has the extremist and most angry.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

But your normie friends and family would fit in a lot better if they simply read some T H E O R Y.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 2 hours ago

For many people, learning things and reading are anathema.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 18 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It's all fun and games until venture capital kicks in, and exploits that central user data store to further centralise the rest of the network. Even then yes, I think that Mastodon has a lot to learn with Bluesky, on how to make user experience smoother.