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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

All I see here is Mehdi Hassan being right and Favreau agreeing 🤷

[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I'm not entirely sure what about this you have a problem with?

On its face, the statement seems reasonable.

What am I missing?

[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 14 points 6 hours ago

The way I read this is there’s nuance in the messaging of (as one example) “Gender Affirming Surgery for All Who Want Them!” and “All People Deserve to Get the Care That it’s Determined They Need by a Medical Professional!”

The first one is unpopular with the general population because it’s different and scary. Similar to the time before the Civil Rights Act was passed Civil Rights for black Americans was incredibly unpopular because the general populace is stupid. There are many messages like that, Pete Buttigieg’s “Medicare for All Who Want It” when he was running was the same thing. People are afraid if you tell them you’re taking away their insurance, but make it an option and an attractive one at that and you’ll get converts.

Sometimes massaging the messaging to de-center positions that are “scary”, is better in the long run to get the people elected that can actually bring about the change. This isn’t about throwing any group under the bus.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

Depending on who he means when he says "electoral majority" I don't see a problem with what he said. It sounds to me like he's agreeing with Hasan.

[–] sunshine@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 hours ago

What's the quote that Mehdi is talking about, then?

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

From the reply, it looks like maybe Favreau is quoting something from an article perhaps?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what article you mean. That's Favreau replying to a tweet by Mehdi Hasan.

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Oh, right. I’m tired and don’t use any microblogging platforms.

So yeah. How are things?

My own take on this is that Dems need to focus (not exclude anything specific) on the economy and the working class, that the correct way to strengthen the party and serve everyone’s needs is to focus on the class war. But they’re too cozy with billionaire donors for that to happen right now.