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A new survey from Norway reveals that 50% of young people under 30 believe that pirating content is an acceptable way to save money. The survey, conducted by Ipsos, highlights that the high cost of streaming services is a key driver behind this attitude. Links between piracy and organized crime or malware, appear to be of less concern.

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 5 points 2 hours ago

Honestly, I'm surprised it's only 50%. They don't have a cost of living crisis there?

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I have a few Norweigan friends and they say the same.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 31 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

As a Norwegian I talked to some acquaintances about a TV-series they liked and I asked "Cool, where can I watch it?". Then we all just looked at each other and laughed.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 8 points 4 hours ago

I would laugh too

[–] MelastSB@sh.itjust.works 50 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Young people under 30

as opposed to old people under 30, like me! Still pirate though

[–] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 minute ago

I think regular people who started to use the internet during the 90s and 2000s tend to know how to pirate more than the ones who started using them at a later decade.

excludig techie people here because

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It's for old people over 30, like me, so we feel old.

[–] example@reddthat.com 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

what about young people over 30 though?

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 2 points 1 hour ago
[–] ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place 136 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Well, since I don't own what I buy, I don't see how pirating is anything other than getting something from a cheaper distributor.

After all, how can I steal something that can't be owned?

[–] avattar@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, I'm just watching/playing the content, I'm fine doing that without the license, which is the paid part anyway, right?

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You see, streaming is a service and you choosing to not use their service is... uhmm... theft!

[–] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 27 seconds ago

hahaha such entitlement from them, right?

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 91 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

People are being exploited and screwed over left and right. Piracy is not even a blip on the radar.

If society was built on moral rules and honest behavior, then maybe people should feel bad about pirating. But this society? Lols.

I struggle to even see the difference from slavery on most days.

[–] ogmios@sh.itjust.works 32 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

When companies treat you as a criminal even when you do try to do everything their way, it really becomes hard to care.

The way many companies act, you'd think they believe that you have to be a sucker to buy/use their own products.

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 14 points 13 hours ago

Even when honest, I can approve the piracy in those days, as companies exploit everything, it acceptable for me.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 24 points 11 hours ago

Links between piracy and organized crime or malware, appear to be of less concern.

When rich have rape sex trafficked victims this one never comes up 🤡

[–] remon@ani.social 23 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

You guys are saving money?

[–] DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 21 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It saves a lot of money for each subscription service you can skip.

I only had to buy a VPN and a cheap mini PC as a server. And then a 1tb SSD. Then I needed to buy another 2tb. And then I had to run Ethernet upstairs for it since the WiFi card couldn't keep up. Then I had to upgrade the router to support the new gigabit cabling...

Eh, well, at least I get to keep something out of it.

[–] remon@ani.social 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm going for a bit more storage, currently sitting at 108TB. The price of my home server could pay for around 75 years of Netflix.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Selection is probably better though

[–] remon@ani.social 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Selection is probably better though

You mean at Netflix? Maybe, but only temporarily. If I'm missing a piece of media I want I'll simply download it and add it to my server. And contrary to Netflix once it's on my server it'll stay there.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

No selection on your server is probably better...at least for your taste.

[–] Grippler@feddit.dk 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

If you only leech and you're not a hoarder, it really doesn't require much. For most people there's not really any need to store every single piece of media they've ever consumed or hope to consume...some day...maybe. Or setup tools to automate their uncontrollable hoarding.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Oh God this is going to become the new "clearing away all grandpa's old Playboys and VHS tapes and newspapers," isn't it?

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Use a password manager; keep the porn accounts in a separate password vault that can be disposed of. Keep the password in a safe and/or include it in your will in some way.

I'm going to have to take over my dad's setup someday and keep it running for my mom...

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Good point although I was thinking more generally in terms of the sheer quantity of hoarded material. Every episode of Taggart and Midsomer Murders and Housewives.... Grandma's hoard might be even more unwieldy

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, I'm familiar with hoarders. Grandma is floor to ceiling; shed, two car garage, basement, both floors. I think the family plan is to let the city/bank deal with it when she goes. We won't go inside.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

I totally agree it's a job best done by someone without any emotional ties.

I also realize that "the bank/the city" means "some secondary cleaning contractor" which means "some probably-undocumented immigrants," i.e. another vital service which could be impacted by the Trump Purge.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep, roughly $400 a week.

I run lean, dude. You don't want my life.

If it's about the hobby, the low end is what an old laptop and a crap hard drive? Cycle out new releases as they come and go.

I could set someone up with Jellyfin and a full arr suite for $50.

[–] remon@ani.social 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep, roughly $400 a week.

Huh? How? Were you subscribed to every single streaming service that existed?

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Was it implied that I was in dire straits because I was streaming?

His statement was pretty general. It's hard out there to save money, even if you aren't streaming.

[–] remon@ani.social 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I understood your comment to mean "piracy is saving you $400 a week", so before piracy you spend $400 a week on media, which sounds like an insane amount.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

No, it's what I can put back rn barring photosynthesis so I wouldn't have to buy food.

I'm working on it.

[–] smb@lemmy.ml 28 points 14 hours ago

well, before that and for generations, banks printing money was an acceptable way of governments to make rich people richer and all others poorer, so i can fully accept that stealing was learned from govs and the richies there. change how "the successfull" accomplish their successes and you can teach the kids how to live without stealing, keep abuse by gov and richies as is and all the theft is done exactly as ordered by govs and richies, no matter the age.

[–] PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works 20 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That figure’s come down significantly since the age of vikings though

[–] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

"Saving money by" vs "making money by"

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

"A penny saved is a penny earned!"
- Benji F

[–] PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

A penny pillaged is a penny earned

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago

Are... Ummm... Is this flirting? Can't it instead be "A penny taken bowling and then for ice cream" instead of going straight to pillaging?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 14 points 14 hours ago

Those are rookie numbers, you've got to pump those up.