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[–] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 hours ago

Ehm, it is already like that. Most of smart TVs use Android which is under Google control, a big (if not the biggest) ad company.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 6 points 7 hours ago (2 children)
[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 minutes ago

Getting increasingly hard.

I finally learned why those 50" tvs are so cheap, like $200. Buy a dumb TV that's the same size is easily 5x the price.

Then again, nobody needs a TV and I only bought one during the pandemic, then connected it to my pi hole.

[–] DampCanary@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

unfortunately,
on some markets they are gone.
"Smart" TVs have squeezed them out.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If you manage to have access to AliExpress, you can have it shipped.

When that is not an option, a big computer screen and a tv card.

[–] DampCanary@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Aliexprees is great for low buget electronics,
but I'm skeptical about anything larger.
Plus with EU's hike on tarifs and delivery services quality it's like playing worst type of gambling.

A TV card(and PC obviously) with screen could be for me,
but there is no way my parents would agree to such setup.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Amazon ships the exact same fare of electronics. If it serves of any consolation...

If you have a laptop, there are small USB tv tunners available. If not, a smarphone can access a good deal of content. And depending on what country you are, you might have access to your national channels (open signal ones) over the net.

For the rest: Aaaaarrrr, me ladies! May the Great Flying Spaghetti Monster fill our sails and set our course for rich waters!

[–] ftbd@feddit.org 31 points 22 hours ago (9 children)

FYI for those using DNS-based adblocking: I discovered that my AndroidTV box asks 8.8.8.8 when my local DNS server blocks a request.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I always have issues with dns blocking so I tried something sneaky I redirected all DNS requests to 1.1.1.1/1.0.0.1 and it worked brilliantly, for about a month when it stopped working all together, I don’t know if a cache was wiped or google saw what I was doing and made a special exception just for me, obviously I want to believe I’m a special snowflake taking the world’s largest internet company head on in an epic battle of wits and skill but I think the cache thing might be more likely for some reason.

[–] ftbd@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You mean redirecting on your router? How should google stop you from doing that? And why would you redirect to cloudflare lol

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 1 points 10 minutes ago

It could start using DNS over HTTPS if it had enough failed requests. Those wouldn’t be able to be redirected

[–] wrekone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 11 hours ago

Depending on your router you can forward all request on port 53 to your DNS server regardless of the IP they try to use.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 23 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Block all port 53 traffic from your network outside of your DNS server/pihole itself.
Block all known DoH servers.

If you want to get REALLY fancy you can write a NAT rule that will force any outgoing request on port 53 to route to your dns/pihole.

I do all of this. It's actually funny to see the requests that were hardcoded to go somewhere. Giant fuck you to those companies.

[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 0 points 36 minutes ago (1 children)

Do DoH requests go though 443?

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 2 points 32 minutes ago

Yes. But there are lists of well known IPs that are serving DoH. So you can just block those. Obviously blocking 443 is not a good idea.

[–] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I connected an old laptop with linux mint and put the TV always in HDMI mode. Problem solved.

[–] addie@feddit.uk 12 points 20 hours ago

What a shower of twats. Don't block the request in that case, just redirect it to your local server that returns a 1x1 transparent png for all requests.

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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago

An ad giant already owns and controls my current TV’s OS

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 97 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Look into Sceptre. 4K with no OS, no ads, doesn't ask for WiFi - just a TV.

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[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

It’s hard but not impossible, as even ‘retail displays’ run an OS in the background to control input switching, image settings etc.

Honestly the best thing to do is buy whatever TV you want (we have a couple of the LG OLEDs in our household), and don’t ever plug them into your network (or WiFi). Otherwise, with updates OS and apps become sluggish, with more ads crammed in.

Instead, use a seperate media player (e.g. Apple TV if you’re already on the iOS ecosystem, Nvidia Shield or similar for Android, HTPC if you’re so inclined etc.) - they’re more powerful, arguably more secure & private, and portable between displays if/when you upgrade.

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[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 42 points 1 day ago

I don’t want an OS on my next TV…

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My current TV is clawing my firewall like squirrel with rabies. I'm sure the next one will too.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just give smartTVs no network at all

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Please enable internet access to setup your new TV, otherwise no TV for you.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Then you turn around and return it. Don’t encourage that behavior by just letting it happen.

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone know of a reasonably priced OLED/QLED, >60", 4k TV without smart features?

I really don't want the spyware and adware that come with newer smart TVs, and I'm willing to pay a bit of a premium for it. I'd also be happy with a unicorn smart TV that doesn't have any of those anti-features.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

What about just not connecting it to the network? Then put a video device on it like Roku or Apple tv or whatever.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 14 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (5 children)

just not connecting it to the network?

Some TVs require connecting to the network to set it up, and I'm concerned TV manufacturers will get more brazen going forward. If there's a company that doesn't do this nonsense, I'd rather reward them for being good instead of working around misfeatures in popular brands.

Roku

Has ads that can be disabled, at least as-of last year. Not sure how long that'll last...

Apple TV

Apple also seems interested in ads.

Any other option will likely degrade to having ads at some point. I could probably get rid of them w/ a PiHole or something, but that could end up being a game of whack-a-mole.

I'll probably end up w/ a Raspberry Pi or something running Kodi or similar, which is really annoying because that's yet another thing I have to self-host just to avoid this stupid obsession with ads.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

In the future we might have to hack our TV's to make them ours....like disconnect the camera and the microphone or feed them bullshit data or inject trick hacks.... 🤔 Hmm what is this thing? rm -f....copy paste to see what it does! Oh shit! Half the country looses Disney plus for a few days. And it repeats 5 times every month so they stop fucking with us.

[–] Wildly_Utilize@infosec.pub 5 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

With the way Sony is treating their gaming customers lately I consider it a dead brand.

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[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

normal people can't just.... grab a single board PC and... install Linux on it! What are they supposed to do!?

I dunno, suffer, I guess. Pass the keyboard. I'm feeling Friends.

edit: my cousin and his wife came over about four months ago and saw we used a keyboard and the TV was just a computer and he went "why the fuck haven't we just done that?". He doesn't know know Linux, but he has a Steam Deck and got by alright.

Sometimes, they just need the idea, a little push.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I have an old 60 inch 1080p TV from the early days of smart tvs. It has a built in app for plex and youtube, a remote that works as a pointer, it's insanely slow but it has zero ads and I'm never ever getting a newer model.

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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 27 points 1 day ago

Googles been a TV OS for a while now.

[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Don’t ever connect them to the internet. Period.

If it’s required, buy a different tv. It’s not difficult to look that up beforehand.

[–] M33@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 7 hours ago

Checking before buy buying will be possible for computer and privacy « educated » people only, that leaves almost everyone helpless in the real world, in a store facing TVs all playing the demo video. Maybe some will read Amazon reviews or do actual research… hope.

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