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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 102 points 1 month ago (13 children)

I do not blame any woman or queer person arming themselves in the U.S. right now. But I think that you should think of it as personal protection rather than preparation for something larger.

Be aware of this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disarmament_of_the_German_Jews

The Jews of Germany constituted less than 1 percent of the country's population. It is preposterous to argue that the possession of firearms would have enabled them to mount resistance against a systematic program of persecution implemented by a modern bureaucracy, enforced by a well-armed police state, and either supported or tolerated by the majority of the German population. Mr. Carson's suggestion that ordinary Germans, had they had guns, would have risked their lives in armed resistance against the regime simply does not comport with the regrettable historical reality of a regime that was quite popular at home. Inside Germany, only the army possessed the physical force necessary for defying or overthrowing the Nazis, but the generals had thrown in their lot with Hitler early on.

Obviously, women and queer people are a lot more than 1% of the population, but you can't count on every queer person being on the right side and you certainly can't count on every woman to be on the right side.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (46 children)

The second amendment was not made for personal protection

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 month ago (6 children)

It was also opposed by George Washington on the argument that "A bunch of farmers with guns will never defeat a trained army." He basically did exactly that, but it took the support of one of the world's largest super powers at the time in order to do it - France.

Not to say don't arm yourself. I plan on doing exactly that myself. But don't expect to be overthrowing the dictatorship to come. There are no resistance groups being armed by the EU here.

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Washington was talking about the militias that were present in the early parts of the war that were under trained and undisciplined. The red coats took them easily and they fled often so the continental congress started the continental army lead by Washington, which was a trained and disciplined army in the style of European standing armies, which was able to take on and even defeat the British occasionally.

After the war the ruling elite still had this idealized vision of citizen militias protecting the liberty of white man and saw it as a less tyrannical, and cheaper model then the European professional standing army and made the second amendment to encourage it. Washington was saying that that system failed and will never work and that we should have a trained army ready to take on European powers if they come back.

Now we have the worst of both worlds, a massive army that gobbles up tax dollars and a bunch of untrained citizens with guns who barely understand what a militia is much less can protect the liberty of the nation.

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[–] Ekybio@lemmy.world 81 points 1 month ago

With sentiment like "your body, my choice" floating around more and more, I hope that everyone in need will arm themselves accoringly.

Because the guys on the other guys think they are made of steel. Remind them that they have a lot of very vulnerable blood vessels close to the skin and that knifes are as cheap as their lies...

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 80 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Jessie McGrath, 63, a lifelong Republican who is trans, grew up around guns on farms in Colorado and Nebraska. She decided to vote for Harris when Republicans started attacking gender-affirming care and “wanting to basically outlaw my ability to exist”. She ended up being a delegate at the Democratic national convention.

“Government getting involved in making healthcare decisions is something that I never thought I would see the Republican party doing,” she said.

What the actual...how are people this ignorant.

[–] Trae@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago (8 children)

She was 100% on board with them regulating reproductive care because it has never personally affected her as a biological male.

She only has an issue now that her favorite team turned on her after telling her for the last 30 years that she's next.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (57 children)

Assigned male at birth is the term you want to use. "Biological male" is a term used by transphobes to spread misinformation.

Biology is very complex and not your elementary school version of biology. What makes someone "biologically" male? Is it having a penis, having testis, having more testosterone than estrogen, having XY chromosomes? These can all be intermixed with other characteristics.

The "basic biology" definition doesn't work in the real world, and the people using it are actively trying to harm trans people or ignorant. Now you're more informed so ignorance isn't an excuse anymore.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 24 points 4 weeks ago

You know how some cis people are fucking morons? We won’t better than y’all.

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[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 73 points 1 month ago (7 children)

The left needs to get on board with this. Govt isn’t going to protect you from far right militias when the shit hits the fan.

[–] nothing@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago

Cops aren't required to protect you from anything. Learn how to protect you and yours. And learn how to read situations, always.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Can confirm, my wife has expressed an interest. We're just waiting for the local LGBTQ friendly range to open.

The other local ranges are either run by cops (ACAB) or require NRA memberships to join. Yeah, that's not happening.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

Sometimes you have to open the gun range you wish to see in your neighborhood.

Or something like that. I think Gandhi said it.

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 12 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Hey, you're in PDX, right? Do you have recommendations?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The one we're waiting on is called Wooster Armory in Tigard/Beaverton. Kinda by Washington Square, by the Guitar Center. The gunshop is open, but it looks like they're having trouble getting the range open. I'm going to pop in and say "Hi!" today and see what the deal is.

Threat Dynamics in Sherwood is good too, I did my AR training there.

Edit Wooster is now saying January for members, February for the public.

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[–] Yewb@lemmy.world 55 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Im a liberal guess who now has a gun safe with multiple guns?

I guess we are making America great again by arming the liberals too?

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 26 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Also by helping the struggling gun industry

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (6 children)

there's an easy solution: only buy foreign made guns.

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 47 points 4 weeks ago (17 children)

Fucking FINALLY.

Yes, women should be armed. Gay people should be armed. Trans people should be armed. Religious minorities should be armed. People that are on the political left never should have ceded the right to keep and bear arms to the political right.

I'm planning on getting certified as a firearms instructor through the NRA (because no matter how shitty the NRA-ILA is, the training programs are solid) this coming year so that I can start working with The Pink Pistols and Operation Blazing Spear.

I would strongly suggest that people try reading This Nonviolence Stuff'll Get You Killed: How Guns Made the Civil Rights Movement Possible.

If you're one of the people that is considering getting a gun, please listen to the "It Could Happen Here" podcast episode titled, Safe Gun Ownership.

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[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 42 points 1 month ago (4 children)

American ‘solutions’ for American problems

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[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 month ago

Remember that step 2 is to practice!

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 38 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

The whole Russian project was to have our "polite society" collapse as we, as Americans, lost all faith in our institutions and turned against one another and in the process, also lost any kind of collective identity, which makes us a weaker target externally. That happened.

It's crazy to me, looking back, how much this was openly discussed along the way, as it successfully happened in slow motion over the last 10-15 years - wasn't there also a book released that just laid their strategy bare? If there are historians in the future, will be amazing to read the perspective on all of this with time and analysis from those not trapped within the cycle of death and hopelessness.

[–] Denidil@lemm.ee 19 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

It works because those of us who read and learn about things like this are a minority of the population. Not one large enough to counteract the effect either.

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[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 weeks ago

Yes it is called the foundations of geopolitics, written by Aleksandr Dugin. Its free to read on the internet archive.

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

At this rate America's 4B movement is gonna stand for "bang bang bang bang"...

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[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Guns!, the cause and solution to most of America's problems.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Stay strapped or get clapped...

It feels like they picked the worst screenshot intentionally though when talking about that YouTuber...

Like, maybe it's a new kind of magnifier that you flip up to use instead of off to the side to not use. But that AR just doesn't look like whoever built it knew what they were doing.

Like the BLM protests where it was obvious people went out and bought ARs just for the event and didn't even put sights on beforehand.

That being said don't wander around gun YouTube on your account it only takes a couple videos for the algorithm to decide you're a gun nut, and that comes along with a bunch of other rightwing videos, because normally it does.

But Reagan is the one who passed Cali's gun laws, and he did so because people he didn't like were marching with guns.

Obviously it would have made more sense to start when Biden was in office, but it seems like unless protestors carry guns, the cops will just beat them without a second thought.

If they even think some have guns tho... Cops won't do shit.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If cops get return fire in a (leftist) protest/riot, they'll come back with MRAPs and live rounds and re-enact Kent State. They live for that moment.

Oh, and that magnifier is on a Unity FAST mount, and yes, it flips up to get in position. It's on a higher sight plane along with the Eotech to help with shooting while using things like night vision goggles, and a lot of people say it's more natural and comfortable for fast shooting in general. It's actually some Gucci shit and looks squared away to me.

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago

Checking 2 boxes out of 4 from the Libertarian dream

[–] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago (10 children)

I have a conundrum, maybe people in this thread can weigh in.

I'm a woman living in an area with a small but loud MAGA faction and useless police who are probably also Trump supporters. I'm also not white.

Hunting is common here, and although I've never been I do know how to shoot and have access to classes if I want to improve. We also have friends and family with firearms and a couple of them live nearby.

I feel like I should get a gun. I know how to use one and I want to be able to protect myself if necessary. But I'm scared of firearms. Something about them disturbs me. Maybe it's the likelihood of someone dying once a gun comes out. Maybe it's just a fear, however unfounded, that I can't or shouldn't handle such a powerful tool. But the reason behind the feeling doesn't matter so much as my ability to overcome it, and I'm not sure I can. If I had money to burn I'd buy one just to see how I feel, but I don't so I can't.

In short, I'm torn. I want to be able to just get a gun for peace of mind and call it a day, but I fear that as soon as the gun is in my house I will become a nervous wreck and that will defeat the whole purpose.

I'd love to hear from anyone who feels the same or has overcome this fear.

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[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Good. Gun rights are human rights. All people have the right to defend themselves and those around them. Taking that away by banning the only tool that evens the playing field is not OK.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just ignore all the dead kids. They're not part of this discussion.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (17 children)

There is going to be a lot more dead minority and marginalised people if they don't make it possibly lethal to fuck with them.

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[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (14 children)

Lol, this thread is a train wreck and is the perfect example of why Republicans keep winning elections despite being on the wrong side of history and having policies that hurt the American population at large.

The left will never win as long as we form circular firing squads and argue over petty bullshit.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

firing squads

You need guns for that.

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[–] SpitSalute@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago

We as leftists, must organize in ways that match the fascists. Subversion of their goals is our goal. The class and culture war is in full effect and we must not be complacent.

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