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Wayland and audio is fixed, but only on the canary branch for the moment, this isnt lazy either, they changed the whole screenshare flow to suit linux's permission prompts

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[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 179 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (11 children)

I was almost convinced they were keeping this broken on purpose, it's been broken so long. Like, years long.

It was broken so long I honestly wouldn't have been surprised if news surfaced that Discord was taking back-handers from Microsoft under the table to keep it broken. With steam working so well on Linux now, broken discord streaming without actual working audio share was one of the last things that posed a hurdle for gamers ditching Windows.

(In the meantime, thank you Vesktop for your service <3)

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 69 points 4 weeks ago

I saw something from a discord dev (can't find it, so grain of salt) about how there was interest recently to do it, but they'd have to work on other stuff that affected everyone first, and they'd probably get it done by q4 2024, guess they were right.

I think before then the whole linux graphics and audio space hadn't really stabilized enough for them to be interested.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 28 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

convinced they were keeping this broken on purpose, it's been broken so long. Like, years long.

Heh. There's a ticket with Splunk. It's a simple request: do the 30 sec of work to let us install your software rpm from a proper yum repo.

They can't figure out how.

They won't ask.

It's 12 years old now.

The ticket for them to do a trivial exercise with tools twice as old, is now a tween. It can ride the bus on its own. I think it can get a Facebook account. Maybe.

We should get one for it.

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[–] deadcream@sopuli.xyz 28 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It was broken so long I honestly wouldn’t have been surprised if news surfaced that Discord was taking back-handers from Microsoft under the table to keep it broken.

Tech companies are fully capable of being lazy for free. Fixing this takes dev time from other work that brings Discord money so doing this costs them, especially considering that Linux userbase must be rather tiny. 99% of software companies don't give a shit about making quality product and will always try their hardest to do as little work as possible while making as much money as possible. If fixing a bug will cost them more than potential profits from making it work then they won't fix it.

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[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago (19 children)

You give them too much credit. It's just shitty, that's it.

Discord is pretty much broken on all platform. It always was. There's just no real alternative unfortunately.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 11 points 4 weeks ago

"Don't attribute to malice what is explained by incompetence"

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[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 90 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

And yes, vesktop did it first, but discord's version is quite a bit more polished

[–] meekah@lemmy.world 30 points 4 weeks ago

Finally I can go back to having people at 200% 😍

[–] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 29 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Vesktop still allows you to choose a single audio output, Discord's implementation seems to share system audio of all running apps, and doesn't let you choose the specific application.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

As far as I'm aware, Vesktop also allows you to share at 60fps, not just at 720, but up to 1440 at no charge. Can't wait for Vesktop to continue being ahead of the curve

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[–] SolarPunker@slrpnk.net 67 points 4 weeks ago (34 children)
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[–] Flatfire@lemmy.ca 46 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

Oh my fuck, finally. Good lord Discord, only took you eons to get that working with Wayland after you broke it.

I get that there's other things like Discord out there, but nothing works like Discord.

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[–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 41 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

When do they stop selling user data? Next patch?

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 15 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

they say they dont sell any user data, although i have my doubts about that

[–] AnAmericanPotato@programming.dev 22 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

It doesn't really matter if they do or don't. What matters is that they can change their TOS at any time, they keep an archive of all historical data, and you will have pretty much no recourse no matter what they decide to do with it in the future.

Who knows what will happen to Discord in five or ten years?

They might get bought by a narcissistic billionaire.

They might sell all their data to Google for training AI.

They might go bankrupt and sell off their assets to the highest bidder.

They might have an IPO and begin the usual value extraction at the expense of their users.

I know, I know...crazy ideas, right? When has anything like that ever happened?!

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[–] PromptX@lemmy.zip 35 points 4 weeks ago

That's about time.. I won't be uninstalling vesktop tho

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 33 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I like their UX, the button doesn't say "Share screen" but "Make Selection". On Element my dad every time has such a hard time to share the screen because even though he did it already a hundred times, he presses the share screen button and then waits, without choosing which window or screen to share.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 16 points 4 weeks ago

you first click the "share screen" button, then it asks if you want to share a device, screen or window, then it shows you that screen, that summons a permission prompt tailored to what you selected recently.

I agree it's quite nice

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 30 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

But still doesn't accept my legitimate phone number, which is mandatory now.

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Only in servers that enabled that verification. Its a server setting

[–] sntx@lemm.ee 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Sent by me:

Dear Discord Privacy Team!

I'm writing to you to inform you that your platform (mobile, desktop, browser) can enforce the user to verify their account with a phone number, after the user has changed their E-Mail adress. This is a serios privacy problem! I'd like you to verify that you don't intend on providing other (more privacy friendly) means of account verification apart from providing the phone number. I suddenly cannot use my Discord account due to this and I object to providing a phone number.

Kind regards, ~sntx

Their answer:

Discord Privacy Team (Discord Support)

Hi there,

Thanks for reaching out to us. Unfortunately, we aren't able to assist you here. This channel is reserved for privacy questions and requests.

It looks like this is a question for our Customer Support team. We recommend that you resubmit your request and choose the appropriate reporting option. You can do so here: [...].

In the meantime you can check out our Help Center for more info on everything Discord.

We appreciate your understanding.

Sincerely, Discord Privacy Team

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 23 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

But its a server setting to need phone verification. Im on a ton of servers and never provided them my phone number. One server changed access rights manually for my username because i refused to give discord my phone number when they enabled the verification requirement haha.
Also, their response is terrible haha

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[–] Presi300@lemmy.world 28 points 4 weeks ago

Took them long enough

[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 4 weeks ago

About fucking time

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 22 points 4 weeks ago

This is past due, I use Vencord.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 21 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

now fix push to talk which is arguable far more important

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[–] jonesy@aussie.zone 19 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Just installed Canary on my system to test this, and while it's a little janky and the hardware acceleration seems to stop other apps using the GPU at the same time this is still good enough I think I can finally move to Linux as my main OS. I assume this will get polished further in the future. Great stuff though.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 16 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

There is another, semi official linux client called vesktop. Comes with a range of plugin options, all improving or enabling functions the default client doesnt offer or hides behind a paywall. It also has had screen share on Linux for the longest time,if you do the switch give it a go. Certainly better than the default app

[–] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (6 children)

Except push to talk doesn't work in Vesktop/Vencord sadly.

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[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 10 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

THIS prevented you from switching?

Afaik screenshare always worked when using Discord in a browser

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[–] LucidBoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 weeks ago
[–] simonced@lemmy.one 17 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Does that works for Wayland or X? or both?
Quite nice feature indeed.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 16 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

both, i mentioned that in the body text

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[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (5 children)
[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

also works, although it says audio "may not work in certain instances"

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[–] simple@lemm.ee 15 points 4 weeks ago

Oh my god, it's happening!

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 weeks ago

Too late for those Nimrods.
Just use vencord or something that worked for ages.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 13 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

I've been screen sharing from discord on hyprland for months, it wasn't already working?

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[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Did they also finally fix the AFK detection on Wayland?

[–] russjr08@bitforged.space 12 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

I'm not sure if this is actually possible - as far as I know, applications can't track key presses/mouse movement when their associated window isn't in focus. It'd be great if they just gave the option to disable the AFK detection since it doesn't work...

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[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Oh sweet jesus, it's finally happening! Huzzah! Rejoice!

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