I want to live in the timeline where things Bernie sees actually come true.
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If it weren’t for Hillary and the DNC being corrupt, Bernie would have destroyed trump in 2016. I know so many people where I was living in middle America that flipped from Bernie to Trump.
I wasn't in middle America, but experienced the same thing. I still don't understand it. Is it just populism? If so, not good. I definitely shed friends in 2016.
It's because Trump advocates for change. Now it's not good change but he's definitely not a fan of the status quo, which gets you votes when the other guy is a Democrat centrist beholden to status quo-loving corporate donors.
I would argue that the change he advocates for is in the direction of the worst parts of status quo. The unbridled capitalistic endeavors of the rich, specifically. Very different than Bernie Sanders.
That's true, but voters who are uneducated or simply don't care about politics will see what he's selling and think he's at least better than the DNC's "why would you want change? Everything is fine" nonsense.
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Bernie can read the room. These other fuckers very much less so.
I'd step back onto the streets with Bernie at the head again. A small part of me still holds that hope from 2016.
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The others can read the room too; they’re just in an entirely different room.
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I feel like they can just choose not to because wheres the money in that?!
Yes he can. I am happy he still has a voice.
Word is, when Bernie first saw the news of the murder, he said, "Fuck yes."
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Yes, it can and that’s why we should keep trying.
But it does seem less likely than in 2016.
I’m not desperate (am Canadian) but I don’t blame desperate people.
The ends don’t justify the means but no one is denying that they do get results.
And that the correct means have been tried for decades.
I feel like we've made more progress in our national discussion regarfing healthcare since the assassination than we have in the previous 10 years.
I don't want to think that violence is the answer, but damn if it ain't a conversation starter.
There is no escaping that sometimes violence is the only answer. It took that level of drama for right wingers to acknowledge what they have in common with progressives. It's really hard for right wing populists to resist supporting murder.
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There's also the fact that the day after many insurance companies were suddenly approving procedures they denied the day before.
In all likelihood the assassination saved lives.
Mass movements can do lots of things, but we can’t even get a majority of people to vote…
We can get a majority of those that do vote to vote for Trump so I am not that hopeful.
Because people don't feel represented in the current FPTP voting-system, which to be fair, was designed by wealthy romans to benefit wealthy romans.
As it turns out, you only need like around 5% of the population to start a revolution (if even that amount). Revolutions have been started with even fractions of a percent.
Voting is how we got here...
Political proces and utterly captured
Otherwise we would have had Bernie 2016.
I am tired of political clowns pretending like politics is the solution, it is key part of the problem.
Did you see how politicians are reacting here.
Besides Bernie that is
I can't even get a plurality of people to agree that we should have a national strike.
We've had several mass movements about it over the past 15~20 years, the only thing that has worked so far is lead poisoning.
I know we loved the leaded solution and we won't cry if more happens but yeah at the of the day the system will need a legal reform to properly depose the parasites.
Shootings might continue until morale improves?
My morale is already improving personally. 3 lead tablets a day keeps the insurance companies at bay. Guaranteed to get you a better rate.
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certainly if the movement is fast enough, as we've learned.
Say a muzzle velocity of roughly 1100 ft per second?
Sometimes it do be like that
Fuck it, i think Luigi’s method is gonna be more effective.
What's easier, motivating hundreds of thousands of people to get out and protest, or letting a few moderately motivated people take direct action?
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It can't be Democrats or republicans, those both are cunts.
Need to support a new party.
Is "working families" legit?
Sadly I dont see a third party ever being the solution due to our first past the post political system. We need election reform for a third party to exist, and those 2 cunts you mentioned would NEVER allow election reform to happen on their watch.
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The Working Families party appears to be legit. Adam Conover did an interview with one of their organizers and it really felt like they had the right ideas and were building the right tools to give power to the people, while understanding the system as-is is stacked against what they want.
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I healthcare insurance companies need to become extinct.
This country needs to have a mass bowel movement and flush that shit down the drain.
Good interview, good vision. Should have been Bernie.
You heard it from Bernie. Sharpen those pitchforks.
Mass movement, movement of mass, close enough.
But when I say the same solution I get banned from communities for being a "coward" and "copaganda."
I think if Bernie suggested murdering all the CEOs he'd get banned from his communities, though.
Yeah but how come CEOs never get banned anywhere for murdering all the working class Premium payers...
Hmmm
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Give it a try Bernie, maybe if you say it someone will listen.
I wish we would see a movement like this in Canada when it comes to grocery giants like Loblaws
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maybe a mass movement and a few other.. things.. will do it.
He is not wrong lol
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