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[–] SpaceScotsman@startrek.website 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"The two models, the 30TB ... and the 32TB ..., each offer a minimum of 3TB per disk". Well, yes, I would hope something advertised as being 30TB would offer at least 3TB. Am I misreading this sentence somehow?

[–] TheImpressiveX@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago

They probably mean the hard drive has 10 platters, each containing at least 3TB.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 158 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It never ceases to amaze me how far we can still take a piece of technology that was invented in the 50s.

That's like developing punch cards to the point where the holes are microscopic and can also store terabytes of data. It's almost Steampunk-y.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Solid state is kinda like a microscopic punch card.

[–] lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

More like microscopic fidget bubble poppers.

When the computer wants a bit to be a 1, it pops it down. When it wants it to be a 0, it pops it up.

If it were like a punch card, it couldn’t be rewritten as writing to it would permanently damage the disc. A CD-RW is basically a microscopic punch card though, because the laser actually burns away material to write the data to the CD.

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That's how most technology is:

  • combustion engines - early 1900s, earlier if you count steam engines
  • missiles - 13th century China, gunpowder was much earlier
  • wind energy - windmills appeared in the 9th century, potentially as early as the 4th

Almost everything we have today is due to incremental improvements from something much older.

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[–] corroded@lemmy.world 94 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I can't wait for datacenters to decommission these so I can actually afford an array of them on the second-hand market.

[–] jeansburger@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Home Petabyte Project here I come (in like 3-5 years 😅)

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[–] quixotic120@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Exactly, my nas is currently made up of decommissioned 18tb exos. Great deal and I can usually still get them rma’d the handful of times they fail

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[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago (3 children)

30/32 = 0.938

That’s less than a single terabyte. I have a microSD card bigger than that!

;)

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[–] ANIMATEK@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] avieshek@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

sonarr goes brrrrrr…

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

...dum tss!

[–] hsdkfr734r@feddit.nl 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My first HDD had a capacity of 42MB. Still a short way to go until factor 10⁶.

[–] 4grams@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My first HD was a 20mb mfm drive :). Be right back, need some “just for men” for my beard (kidding, I’m proud of it).

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So was mine, but the controller thought it was 10mb so had to load a device driver to access the full size.

Was fine until a friend defragged it and the driver moved out of the first 10mb. Thereafter had to keep a 360kb 5¼" drive to boot from.

That was in an XT.

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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Great, can't wait to afford one in 2050.

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[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Everybody taking shit about Seagate here. Meanwhile I've never had a hard drive die on me. Eventually the capacity just became too little to keep around and I got bigger ones.

Oldest I'm using right now is a decade old, Seagate. Actually, all the HDDs are Seagate. The SSDs are Samsung. Granted, my OS is on an SSD, as well as my most used things, so the HDDs don't actually get hit all that much.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I've had a Samsung SSD die on me, I've had many WD drives die on me (also the last drive I've had die was a WD drive), I've had many Seagate drives die on me.

Buy enough drives, have them for a long enough time, and they will die.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 14 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Seagate had some bad luck with their 3TB drives about 15 years ago now if memory serves me correctly.

Since then Western Digital (the only other remaining HDD manufacturer) pulled some shenanigans with not correctly labeling different technologies in use on their NAS drives that directly impacted their practicality and performance in NAS applications (the performance issues were particularly agregious when used in a zfs pool)

So basically pick your poison. Hard to predict which of the duopoly will do something unworthy of trusting your data upon, so uh..check your backups I guess?

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[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

This is for cold and archival storage right?

I couldn't imagine seek times on any disk that large. Or rebuild times....yikes.

[–] noobface@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

up your block size bro 💪 get them plates stacking 128KB+ a write and watch your throughput gains max out 🏋️ all the ladies will be like🙋‍♀️. Especially if you get those reps sequentially it's like hitting the juice 💉 for your transfer speeds.

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[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

Definitely not for either of those. Can get way better density from magnetic tape.

They say they got the increased capacity by increasing storage density, so the head shouldn't have to move much further to read data.

You'll get further putting a cache drive in front of your HDD regardless, so it's vaguely moot.

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[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Seagate. The company that sold me an HDD which broke down two days after the warranty expired.

No thanks.
laughing in Western Digital HDD running for about 10 years now

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I had the opposite experience. My Seagates have been running for over a decade now. The one time I went with Western Digital, both drives crapped out in a few years.

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[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

Avoid these like the plague. I made the mistake of buying 2 16 TB Exos drives a couple years ago and have had to RMA them 3 times already.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Lmao the HDD in the first machine I built in the mid 90s was 1.2GB

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

We had family computers first, I can't recall original specs but I think my mother added in a 384MB drive to the 486 desktop before buying a win98se prebuilt with a 2GB drive. I remember my uncle calling that Pentium II 350MHZ, 64MB SDRAM, Rage 2 Pro Turbo AGP tower "a NASA computer" haha.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

My dad had a 286 with a 40MB hard drive in it. When it spun up it sounded like a plane taking off. A few years later he had a 486 and got a 2gb Seagate hard drive. It was an unimaginable amount of space at the time.

The computer industry in the 90s (and presumably the 80s, I just don't remember it) we're wild. Hardware would be completely obsolete every other year.

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[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Just one would be a great backup, but I’m not ready to run a server with 30TB drives.

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