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You’ve just spent $400 on a baby monitor. Now you need a subscription | Once upon a time there was a company called Miku who wasn’t making quite enough money...::Once upon a time there was a company called Miku who wasn't making quite enough money...

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 143 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I forget the name of it, but a number of years ago, there was a startup that wanted to make communication devices for hikers. They could transmit short messages to each other. Anyway VCs came in and asked, where’s the MRR? We’re not investing unless there’s monthly revenue.

It’s all just greed. You can’t just have a device and be good. Investors are constantly chasing the quarterly growth.

It’s disgusting.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 90 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's modern capitalism.

Making 10 million a month for 10 years isn't as good as going from 1 million a month up to 10 over five years.

The important part isn't the total profit, it's the increase in stock price.

This leads to a churn of companies as they're pushed past the breaking point because by then investors have sold and moved on to the next.

The only companies that survive are huge corporations that buy up smaller ones to do the same process.

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

American society decided that the GE model was not only working, but needed to be generalized.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Aprs already exists and is optimal for hikers. A relatively lightweight base station at good height can get you hundreds of miles pretty reliably or tens of thousands of miles if you really really try and get lucky.

[–] dunestorm@lemmy.world 121 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Subscriptions are a plague on our society. No wonder piracy is on the rise when even simple apps require a fucking subscription.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or when a product requires an app to function instead of just putting some buttons on the thing. The apps also tend to want access to everything too. 🙄🤦‍♂️

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because the device you bought is just a gateway for the company to access the real product, you. You're paying them so they can access your information.

The sad reality of today.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The sadder part is how most don't seem to give a fuck about this.

[–] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Products are usually priced lower than cost and seem like a good deal to the average consoomer, they don't think about why it's so cheap.

See free Amazon Alexa deals for example

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[–] menemen@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Don't use a baby camera that is connected to the internet. Use one with a monitor that is connected to the camera with a local encrypted signal.

The one we had isn't available anymore, but I am sure there are more modern equivalents.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There are. We only use a local analog camera/monitor for our youngest one now, fuck the internet-enabled ones.

For our first baby, we had an Owlet setup originally because of the smart sock for newborns (the sock monitors the baby's heart rate/oxygen levels and alerts you if it drops below a certain bpm/%) and it came with a camera as well. While it was nice to be able to remote view the camera from anywhere whenever family members were babysitting for us, it was so damn glitchy and unreliable (the camera, at least the sock never gave us issues). I can't tell you how many god damn times that shitty camera would simply just die and you'd have to sneak into the nursery to manually reset the camera like a ninja in order not to wake the baby you just spent an hour trying to get down only to get back to your room and realize the fucking monitor isn't working... Fuck Owlet.

Oddly, there was no monthly subscription, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's changed now.

[–] TheCannonball@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have an owlet with the camera and sock. No subscription yet but also no problem with the camera.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's good they seem to have fixed the camera. This was over 4 years ago when we got ours. We still have the sock + sock base station for our new baby, but yeah we got rid of the camera. I think part of the problem was the camera only supported 2.4ghz wifi, and where we lived at the time was pretty housing dense, so there was lots of interference. However, that didn't explain why it'd just stop working entirely until we unplugged/replugged it. Oh well, our new monitor system works reliably so no use fretting over the past. Good luck with your kiddos, may your nights be long and restful! 🙂

[–] optissima@possumpat.io 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you ever need to reset it, based on what else is in the room, I'd just flip a breaker instead.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if you're joking or not but there were times where I literally contemplated doing just that. Unfortunately the nursery's white noise sound machine would also get caught in that crossfire, which ultimately would stay my hand, heh.

[–] optissima@possumpat.io 2 points 1 year ago

It wasn't in jest, but it sucks that wouldn't work. I was throwing it out there because I know how little sleep can mess with the mind.

[–] bighatchester@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't really feel baby monitors are really even needed unless you have a large house . With my son I used an old phone as one when I would go across the hall to my neighbors apartment for a couple of minutes. If I actually bought one it would of been a big waste of money. I used to work for a company that did warranties for toys r us and alot of people would speed hundreds on special chairs it a machine that mixes and heats up formula . I used a little chair I got for free and a bottle warmer that was like $15 .

[–] stealthnerd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We never even warmed bottles. Some people were shocked to see us pull a bottle straight out of the fridge and give it to our daughter but I didn't see any reason to warm them when she was perfectly happy with cold milk. I'd rather not have to worry about overheating it or having to lug around a bottle warmer when traveling.

I do like the monitor though but it's more of a convenience and piece of mind thing than a necessity. Being able to see her means we know if that big thud was her kicking the wall vs falling out of her crib without getting up and running into the room. We almost always keep the volume muted though, it's a small house and we can can hear her just fine except for if we're both outside.

The advice I give other parents is to not buy anything but the absolute basics until you really need it because a lot of things you think you'll need you probably don't.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Our camera was a wireless IP cam that connected to the LAN but not the greater internet.

[–] solidhcz@infosec.pub 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We felt this sting, we purchased the miku because of the monitering and now they want 10 bucks a month for what used to be included in the purchase of the device. Now all the features are blocked.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

Can you return it? Or write thr company and request a refund?

This is a bait and switch, which a judge would award damages on if you bothered with a small claims filing.

[–] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

If you used a credit card you should contest the charge on your card and throw the thing out.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

You can get an old version of the software without the features blocked.

[–] Hangglide@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I had 3 babies and spent $0 on video monitoring. Your baby will be fine. Don't fall for the advertising drama. Babies have been fine for thousands of years with no electronics.

[–] frazw@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They've also not been fine.

SUID Death rate for infants has decreased even since 1990. Baby monitor likely had a role in that.

FYI not supporting subscription for features a device has in hardware, just saying I'd rather have a monitor that never went off than no monitor and a dead child. There are plenty of alternative devices without subs that cost a lot less to begin with.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You know what else happened in the 90s? Leaded gas was banned. I'll attribute it to that. Anecdotes don't mean much.

[–] wagoner@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago

You need to publish a scientific paper on your SIDs discovery. Don't let this major work languish in some technology comment on Lemmy!

[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Leaded gas was banned in the 70s.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I used a wireless webcam to monitor my baby and, honestly, I was so paranoid that I don't regret it. Seeing her breathe or move before I went to bed and when I woke up was a comfort and relief.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

And only a few children were kidnapped by the Fae.

[–] RufusFirefly@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I can just hear some people going, "WHAT? Are you crazy?". I was a little tike in the early 60s and the only monitor my mom had was me screaming or the "THUNK" of me falling and hitting the floor.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about the ones that were left in the cold for being sickly?

[–] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm not sure why people bother with these. I used a wireless IP camera that could be viewed from pretty much any device, required no subscription and had better quality than most baby monitors.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

The baby monitor passed down through our family was said to have been excavated from Pompeii and has cost us $0 dollars over several generations, not counting electricity cost of charging eneloops and Ikea ladda batteries.

[–] barfplanet@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a baby monitor, and considered using an IP camera before buying it. The reason I like mine is because I've got a separate little handheld monitor on RF instead of wifi. There's a handful of situations where it's fine in very handy. Our nanny could use it without us having to set her up with any tech. Works while traveling without having to deal with hotel Wi-Fi or hot spots. Works outside much further than my wifi reaches. I like the RF.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

We did the exact same thing. The night vision worked well and it gave me peace of mind every night and every morning.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm cancelling subscriptions like crazy, I don't have any streaming TV subs left at all. I replaced them with something that gives actual value:

  • Kagi search engine. This wonderful thing has made me discover how much good sites there are out there!

  • Fastmail. Really fast and lots of actually useful features.

  • Jetbrains editors. I actually like the new user interface. :)

[–] Varan1@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I got rid of Reddit!

[–] PastorHaggis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

+1 to JetBrains.

I started using them like 8 years ago and have never looked back. My dad introduced them to me when I was doing some homework on a family trip and my laptop was dead. After that, I used them for every class in college, then used them at a job where they didn't provide an IDE but I had the subscription.

Even when I'm not developing at home consistently, it's just so much better to have it than not.

[–] orwellianlocksmith@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same enshittification that got Drawboard PDF

[–] derosnec@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This really irks me. Paid, and then they make the app shitter and put basic functions behind the paywall.

I would gladly pay for a new and improved version of the app (likely every now and again I admit).

I will never pay for a PDF editor on a subscription basis.

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[–] yoz@aussie.zone 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Louis Rossman did a video on this

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[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

In Soviet Russia, baby monitors you!

[–] wagoner@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago

Just buy a non Internet-based product that uses wireless radio and a dedicated display about phone sized.

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