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This makes me believe it really wasn't him. If he actually wrote a manifesto, he'd have declared himself guilty, taken credit, and done a speech about how he was now a martyr for the cause.
If he's sticking to his story, then I believe him. They couldn't find the real killer so they just went with whoever "fit the description", as per usual.
Wouldn’t be surprised if he was in New York on some legitimate business, they caught him on camera at a Starbucks near the murder, blasted his image all over the news and social media, and just waited for someone to call.
Then when they got the call, they grabbed a backpack with “evidence” and claimed he had it on him when they arrested him.
Did anyone believe that he was wondering around for 3 days with a bag that was holding the murder weapon, fake IDs, and a hand written manifesto? He ditched another bag, and escaped on an e-bike. Why would he then run around for three days with the rest of the evidence.
Innocent until proven guilty. It's the government's job to prove him guilty. He doesn't have to help them.
Personally, I am sad that is all it takes for you to believe something. Businesses, media, governments, and more are trying to make people believe things (unrelated to luigi) that aren't true. You need to raise the bar, not lower it. Maybe you want to believe he didn't do it, but I hope you don't actually believe that based on so little information.
There's too much that doesn't add up, it's just too convenient that he had the gun and manifesto on him.
I mean, if he can away with it while not undermining his original intentions, why not do it?
There's various ways he could go unpunished that would prevent a retrial and so he'd then be set up to be influential in some kind of healthcare reform.
Heavy on the cope though.
That doesn't explain why he keeps mogging the camera, or what he yells to the journalist in that one video.
I don't know if it's him, but I think whoever it is, is just following their lawyer's advice, not trying to be a martyr
The thing is they've actually made a mistake charging him with terrorism. It is surprisingly narrowly defined so even without a sympathetic jury he might get a not guilty verdict for it and it weakens the whole case against him. But most of all by including it they've made all his intentions and politics central issues to the case. All the evidence and his statements about this will have to go into the public record. If he had pleaded guilty that wouldn't happen nor would there be a chance for jury annulment. Pleading not guilty is simply the smarter option to take.
Hope this is true
Its fucked up the news is acting like Sandy Hook wasn't a decade ago. All this guy is accused of is shooting a CEO.
I don't really think it's a conspiracy of sorts, it's just news media being news media. They want the most clicks, doesn't matter much what for or what the consequences are. it's the same reason why trump yet again got so extremely much news coverage. Had news organizations all decided not to waste their time with trump, we wouldn't have his presidency now. In reality though, everyone and their mother had to talk about trump, it was trump before and after and now we have yet again to deal with this fuck face for a other 4 years. I know that news media aren't the only ones to blame, theyight now even be the worst, but he'll do they have a large share of the blame for all the shit that had been happening lately, and it's all about the clicks, it's all about the money
This is the disheartening part that highlights the class divide. Shootings of common folk barely make the news where I'm from. How much have taxpayers paid for this so far? Justice clearly isn't being applied equally.
Maybe if it happens enough, we can normalize billionaire CEO murder as well.
CEO or not, billionaires gotta go
The problem here is the frequency of the crimes. If CEOs were being shot on a weekly to bi weekly average in groups of 3 or more, this crime would become one of the many others the American media wash over.
Indeed, the powerful would be left on their own like they left our children on their own. Only unlike our kids, they could do something about it....
The billionaires would be totally "scrooged", better share the wealth assholes. A poor man, isn't a murdered man.
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Well, I can dream....
Sandy hook was instead normalized, and happens multiple times over across the nation annually. Pew pew ‘muricuh
Speaking to CBS, the BBC's US partner, on Sunday, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said that the online rhetoric has been "extraordinarily alarming".
"It speaks of what is really bubbling here in this country," he said. "And unfortunately we see that manifested in violence, the domestic violent extremism that exists."
Did he care about the domestic violent extremism before it started to affect the wealthy? What about the domestic terrorists who go after the queer community, POC communities, women, doctors providing reproductive healthcare...the list goes on.
Violent extremism isn't new here. It's just that this one affects people with power.
Did he care about the domestic violent extremism before it started to affect the wealthy?
No, not at all. They're only mad because for the first time, the elite feel mortal.
You ever heard of the "less dead", well, Brian Thompson is "more dead"
And for those who haven't "Less Dead" is a saying used to describe people who's deaths the police don't look into because they're "not important enough"
Many serial killers get away with their crimes simply because they're smart enough to only kill those who would be deemed "less dead"
You’ve got far right militias blowing up America’s electric grid infrastructure, threatening politicians, having standoffs on federal property, and patrolling hurricane impacted areas trying to capture federal employees that are there helping, and I’ve never heard those people referred to as terrorists.
Yeah, the rules of society say they won and they think all the losers beneath them just have to accept it. The social order and status quo are great for them. That something would violate it is extremely disturbing to them and provokes an emotional response.
I think that's why they seem to be so clumsily overreacting to the murder. Maybe it's working in segments of the population I don't see, but everyone in my social network is either outright happy it happened or at least get why it happened. Some will have perfunctory "murder is wrong" statements, but the thrust is about what a corrupt and evil business health insurance is. That's all the way up to the boomers and crosses political boundaries.
Things like the perp walk, excessive charges, and corporate comedy pretending everyone just thinks Mangione is a bad guy just highlights the us vs. them of class war rather than trying to somehow quell or redirect the bubbling unrest. I think they're doing this because their peers and masters are emotionally demanding a visible and recognizable show of power and obedience. If they knew what was good for them they'd be triple-timing it to make some token effort to reform the system, but even a token effort in response to the killing of a rich person would infuriate them, so clumsy performances it is.
When my usually "civil" boomer dad said he gets why he did it and wasn't outright condemning him, I knew the ruling class wasn't in control of the narrative as per usual this time.
My 75 year old Canadian aunt laughed when I showed her this
Everyone hates these people except the people who want to be these people.
I'm actually rather impressed that so many people get what's actually happening here. I don't know if it'll ultimately amount to anything, but it shows that it is actually possible to get through to people sometimes. It's a shame that no avenue but violence has been left to us to do so.
I think most people have known about the situation for years. Apathy isn't a result of disinterest or lack of care, it's a result of lack of agency and lack of hope. Now both of those are slightly more on the table.
His lawyer made a great point about how law enforcement and the media threw "alleged" out the window and just insisted he did it...
What's disappointing is it's apparently working because when I do see and "allegedly" thrown in, people are down voting it like it's a conspiracy.
People always want to act like propaganda can't effect them, but the whole country immediately accepted that he was guilty because of a tiny change in reporting from the norm.
But especially with the wrinkle that someone brought it up to the McD's worker and then she snitched....
I think the cop's have a reason they're sure, it's just they got that reason illegally thru means we're not supposed to know they have. Which explains a lot of shit.
I'm not so sure the cops are actually sure, there are enough questions around how all this shook out, none of it really adds up well, so either they're hiding the evidence that links this shit together, or they're railroading someone who looks like the guy who flashed a smile (who we don't even know for sure is the shooter) so they can look good by closing the case fast and making an example of him.
Frankly I still question if he’s a lookalike scapegoat so the police can save face and try to put it to bed. May also explain the odd “planted” evidence that is being mentioned.
The terrorism "charges" are laughably flimsy and clearly contrived. Trumped Up, you might say.
The terrorism charge is absolutely the dumbest thing they did. Now it's on them to prove it was more than just murder.
He is so hot
Someone commented that they're REALLY trying to take a bad photo of him. Literally anything they can play off as malicious, unhinged, or even "thuggish," but every single time the man pulls a barney stinson. They tried putting him in a suicide smock (which I strongly question, even in psychiatry I've only had to use one a handful of times in almost ten years). They even tazed him until he pissed himself and he's standing tall with his chin up. The man cannot take a bad photo and while I hate to say it's true it probably will actuality give him an advantage in the court proceedings.
In addition to a long stream of journalists waiting for the suspect to appear, members of the public - almost all of them young women - were in court, some of whom told CBS, the BBC's US partner, that they were there to show their support.
(emphasis mine)
They're really trying to say that "Oh he's handsome, that's why people like him."
No it's not his looks, it's the fact that he lit the fires of rebellion just be being accused of this act of self-defense.