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From a talent for the game (football) to a passion for gambling (betting), Nicolò Fagioli's step was all too short when, at the age of 22, he found himself in the middle of an investigation (much) bigger than himself: "I bet on football matches", he basically admitted when questioned by the investigators of the Turin Mobile Squad, who, coordinated by the public prosecutor Manuela Pedrotta, were (and still are) on the trail of an illegal betting ring using online platforms. In the process of sifting through this world, populated by people who are not always to be recommended, dozens of users were discovered, including the digital trail that led to the Juve midfielder.

It was late summer when the young promising player of the Bianconeri, and of the national team, received an invitation to appear for questioning as a suspect, concerning his large online bets and, it goes without saying, the hypothetical violation of the rules laid down by law 401 of 1989: those intervening 'in the sector of clandestine gambling and betting' to 'protect the fairness in the conduct of sporting events'. In this case, however, one would be talking about betting on matches, but not of one's own team. It is clear that the investigators already have several elements in hand and that, lying, would serve no purpose. Thus, Fagioli tells how things went, although it is clear that the agents are mainly targeting those behind the illegal organisation. In short, alleged criminals. Immediately afterwards, the player's lawyers - Luca Ferrari and Armando Simbari - got in touch with the Procura della Federcalcio, in Rome: Fagioli essentially 'self-disclosed', at least as far as sport is concerned. And now he is 'serene,' the lawyers go on to explain, 'and is fully focused on Juventus and the championship. Just as the Juventus club had been made aware of the fact right from the start.

Gambling is not a crime, except on illegal platforms, precisely: but a sportsman, whatever his role (athlete, coach or manager) cannot bet on the sport he plays. In this case, football. On this, Article 24 of the Code of Sports Justice is very clear: there is a ban on 'subjects of the federal system, managers, members and members of clubs belonging to the professional sector to make or accept bets, directly or indirectly, even from persons authorised to receive them, which have as their object results relating to official matches organised within the framework of the FIGC, FIFA and UEFA'.

For sporting justice, Fagioli potentially faces a maximum disqualification of up to three years. After that, youth and club expect - in case of guilt - much less. It is, in short, a delicate case, both sportingly and humanly, if it is true that Fagioli has been attracted to the game since his youth days, when - they say - the plush touch of the ball was already accompanied by poker games. An alleged 'ludopathy' that could be explained as part of the defensive line before the sporting justice. And if nothing is at risk for Juve, there could be a different matter for other FIGC members, even if in a completely hypothetical way: since, the same Article 24, speaks of an 'obligation to inform the Federal Prosecutor's Office' if they become aware that clubs or other FIGC members are engaged in betting. Because once the news came out yesterday, it seems that almost everyone in the world of football knew about Fagioli's demon.

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[–] YoungBeautiful_C@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Hope he can get all the help he needs regardless of how this investigation will turn out. (Gambling) addiction is a serious matter and a disease that destroys lives if not taken seriously

[–] YoungBeautiful_C@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Hope he can get all the help he needs regardless of how this investigation will turn out. (Gambling) addiction is a serious matter and a disease that destroys lives if not taken seriously

[–] bughidudi@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

He's a shit person who should rot in jail, but his sources are usually quiet reliable

How he obtains and uses that information to extort money from celebrities is a completely different story

[–] they-act-like-madari@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Did he bet on his own games tho?

[–] WW_Jones@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I'm obviously biased but I don't know what good it would do to hit him with a brutal punishment (some say 3 years which would effectively destroy his career), especially if he's a gambling addict. He seems to need help more than isolation.

[–] bash011@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Hopefully with the number of top level footballers gambling they'll finally stop playing gambling ads before and after games....

Of course that won't happen though

[–] bash011@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Hopefully with the number of top level footballers gambling they'll finally stop playing gambling ads before and after games....

Of course that won't happen though

[–] Pleasant_Skill2956@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The person who launched the scoop on Fagioli a month ago said that another Italian national team player involved in a similar situation will be announced today at 6pm. He said that he is a much more important player than Fagioli and that he now plays abroad, apparently the player is probably Bonucci

[–] Pleasant_Skill2956@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The person who launched the scoop on Fagioli a month ago said that another Italian national team player involved in a similar situation will be announced today at 6pm. He said that he is a much more important player than Fagioli and that he now plays abroad, apparently the player is probably Bonucci

[–] jjw1998@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’m maybe in the minority here, but if you’re a gambling addict betting on football but not matches involving your own team I’m not sure why this is something which requires punishment rather than support

[–] jjw1998@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I’m maybe in the minority here, but if you’re a gambling addict betting on football but not matches involving your own team I’m not sure why this is something which requires punishment rather than support

[–] kermvv@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

You can use someone else to bet for you

[–] JuventusFootballClub@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Plot twist: he bet on his own disqualification then turned himself in

[–] decadentEcchi@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

What the fuck?

[–] TheItalianStallion64@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

what is happening

[–] thrider@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

one could say, he spilled the beans

(fagioli means beans in italian)

[–] bughidudi@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The Italian national team has

  • Bastoni > Alex Sticks
  • Barella > Nick Stretcher
  • Gatti > Fred Cats
  • Fagioli > Nick Beans
  • Colombo > Lawrence Dove
  • Casale > Nick Hamlet (or Nick Countryhouse)
  • Zappacosta > David HoeCoast
  • Bove > Edward Ox
  • Mancini > Johnluke Lefties (as in left handed)
  • Mandragore > Roland Mandrake
  • Bonaventura > Jack Goodchance
  • Acerbi > Frank Ripe
  • Calafiori > Richard Lowerflowers (lower intended as a verb)

And we have coaches like

  • Allegri > Maximilian Merry (or cheerful)
  • Conte > Antony Duke
  • Pioli > Stephen Pegs
[–] kl08pokemon@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

They managed to get rid of tobacco sponsorships in F1 (mission winnow I know) despite the ludicrous amounts the teams were paid. Hopefully they can do the same with gambling in football

[–] siriBackInWakanda@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Betting company and those sponsors are there forever. All the clubs care about money only which seems correct because that's what business is for. No moral obligation.

[–] matthieuC@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Counter argument: $

[–] STFUco@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Sigh… Here we go again

[–] WW_Jones@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I'm not saying no punishment, just not something that will destroy his life

[–] kl08pokemon@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah it would probably have to come from EU legislation. Brexit complicates things of course

[–] siriBackInWakanda@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It is difficult to agree on that. Some clubs may go bankrupt. And you will have limited sponsors. And where you draw the line? Is alcoholic beverages or cola good to market? Is EA sports good sponsor, as their in game purchase(micro transaction) makes people behave like that they do during betting. That's why it was banned in Belgium I guess.

[–] V-TriggerMachine@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

National team breaks hits hard for Juventus

[–] sca34@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

You can bet on that!

[–] Ligma_lemur@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Juventus be like: don't worry us too!

[–] harpsabu@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Why what's his in English

[–] LookAtForever@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

He should confess his sins to (the) Chiesa.

(Chiesa means Church)

[–] siriBackInWakanda@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Like it stopped clubs from operating or fans to stop supporting the club. Actually the club generated more revenue after that and became more successful.

[–] MERTENS_GOAT@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Probably analysing his creams currently

[–] yellow__cat@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Well the English FA just set a precedent 6 months ago with Ivan Toney. His ban was reduced from 15 to 8 months on the account of pleading guilty and admitting to a gambling addiction. Keep in mind Toney had been betting for years and was even betting on his own team to lose matches.

[–] Driving_Seat@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It’s one of the worst things. Not the worst

[–] Thraff1c@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

One word: deterrence

[–] ShameTimes3@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Crazy time 🔛🔝

[–] a34fsdb@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] harpsabu@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I always laugh as well when my translate changes Bastonis name to sticks. And I think it translates barellas as something funny too

[–] CircleTheFire@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Nick Beans is the name of a host/presenter for a television show that is the equivalent of MTV Cribs for chavs.

[–] olaf901@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

middle east same level as betting and fake crypto , get of your high horse lol

[–] siriBackInWakanda@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

No company from Saudi, UAE, Qatar etc should be allowed to sponsor. Of course not all middle East countries have horrible human rights issues.

[–] Driving_Seat@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Different leagues, different penalties

[–] Backseat_Bouhafsi@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

U only hear about those who didn't get deterred by the strict punishment. There might be many who wanted to, but didn't bet bcos of the risk.

[–] MaxParedes@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Nice job mods :)

[–] siriBackInWakanda@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It is difficult to agree on that. Some clubs may go bankrupt. And you will have limited sponsors. And where you draw the line? Is alcoholic beverages or cola good to market? Is EA sports good sponsor, as their in game purchase(micro transaction) makes people behave like that they do during betting. That's why it was banned in Belgium I guess.

[–] CowboysfromLydia@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It doesn't have to be for his own good, this is not criminal law.

Its a punishment for having broken the code of conduct of his profession. He doesn't go to jail lol.

[–] jersey-city-park@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It is criminal law because he used illegal gambling platforms

[–] sca34@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You don't understand, he plays for juve. He deserves a prize for his bravery.

[–] WhyAlwaysMe1991@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Your fans really are insufferable

[–] sca34@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

You can bet on that!

[–] zizou00@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Well good news, he'll have a lot more time now to seek help. I get what you mean, it might be beneficial to not throw his life into disarray, but maybe it will remove him from some of the aspects that enabled, encouraged or exacerbated his habits. Players experience a lot of pressure whilst in the constant cycle of training, travelling and playing and may use gambling as a form of stress relief. If you're constantly in that cycle, there's going to be very little time to find the help and commit to it. Now he'll have the opportunity to do that and put measures in place to help safeguard him from it in the future.

He's admitted his issue, which is a very big first step to take, especially with the repercussions relating to his employment. He's young enough for this to not completely derail his career.

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