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The erasure of Luigi Mangione (substack.evancarroll.com)
submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by dexa_scantron@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world
 

Right now, on Stack Overflow, Luigi Magione’s account has been renamed. Despite having fruitfully contributed to the network he is stripped of his name and his account is now known as “user4616250”.

This appears to violate the creative commons license under which Stack Overflow content is posted.

When the author asked about this:

As of yet, Stack Exchange has not replied to the above post, but they did promptly and within hours gave me a year-long ban for merely raising the question. Of course, they did draft a letter which credited the action to other events that occurred weeks before where I merely upvoted contributions from Luigi and bountied a few of his questions.

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 424 points 2 months ago (20 children)

user4616250 will now be a famous meme. "How do we fix healthcare? We call user4616250."

[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 84 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Do not forget me user4616250

Look down, look down You'll always be a slave Look down, look down You're standing in your grave

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago

Anytime a CEO does something questionable; "/ping user4616250"

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 218 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 161 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Headquarters seems to be:

70 White Lion Street, London, England, N1 9PP

To send all your angry letters too.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 110 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Make sure to include bullet points

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 66 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Bullet points work best when using a 9mm font size.

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 200 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Stack Overflow has been toxic for a long time already. It's one of the things that a lot of people seem pleased to see AI devour.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 63 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I've read it is still well valued because people will keep asking questions there when LLM can't answer, so they remain a precious source of post LLM curated Q&A.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 57 points 2 months ago (18 children)
[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 40 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Until it's just AIs answering questions asked by other AIs while human admins block human accounts..

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 195 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (16 children)

I cross posted this to Hacker News (which is very pro-CEO and big corpo) and it's now rank 1 on the front page, lmao. People really support this guy

(And it's funny because in the comments, people are seething "Nooooo he's not popular, look at these polls that show he has 13% approval!!")

(Not sharing link to avoid brigade)

[–] Dayroom7485@lemmy.world 113 points 2 months ago (5 children)

The submission has been clearly penalized by hn moderators: Posted 3h ago, upvoted >600 times with almost 500 comments, ranking 23rd on the front page. Ranking first currently is a submission with 80 upvotes, posted 1h ago.

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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 163 points 2 months ago (11 children)

What can Stack Overflow's motivation possibly be to strip Luigi's account? Are their private equity owners in cahoots with health insurance executives?

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 152 points 2 months ago (2 children)

A connection I may be inventing comes to mind: all the CEOs making million dollar donations to the new administration in the US.

Basically, show you’re on the side of “law and order” and hope you’re not caught up in any purges.

[–] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 85 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 65 points 2 months ago

Kiss the ring.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 156 points 2 months ago (3 children)

They're scared of Luigi still, got it

[–] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 114 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

That's not what the article is about. Stack Overflow has kept content that Luigi created up, but removed his username, in violation of Creative Commons. Edited the post to make that more clear.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 69 points 2 months ago (10 children)

If they weren't afraid of what he represents they wouldn't have removed his name.

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[–] dumbass@leminal.space 40 points 2 months ago (3 children)

No, they're terrified of us now, they know we tasted blood and are hungry for more.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 137 points 2 months ago (1 children)

On Stack Exchange, all of the contributions on the site are contributed under a license maintained by a third party called Creative Commons [...] the work remains properly attributed.

This is the main issue IMO

[–] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I edited the post to call that out specifically

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 128 points 2 months ago (17 children)

By this logic, everyone charged (not convicted, just charged) should have their accounts and submissions changed in the same manner as Luigi's.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 61 points 2 months ago

Man I sure wish this'd mean all Trump-generated content and speeches got deleted. That'd be genuinely helpful to the world at least...

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[–] john89@lemmy.ca 113 points 2 months ago (3 children)

That's fucking bullshit.

Censorship needs to die.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago

platforms like this are essentially private ownership of the commons

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 107 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Apropos of nothing, this was an article about substance from a year ago:

Substack faces user revolt over anti-censorship stance on neo-Nazis

Fuck substack.

Shit, this article is about stack overflow, not substack. Too early, but still fuck substack.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 2 months ago (8 children)

"Censorship forced me to flee a pro-nazi site to another pro-nazi site," is a contradiction worth noting. It highlights the general pro-nazi vibe going around big tech.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 101 points 2 months ago (13 children)

As of yet, Stack Exchange has not replied to the above post, but they did promptly and within hours gave me a year-long ban for merely raising the question.

Laws mean nothing anymore. Therefore licenses mean nothing. Therefore ownership means nothing, and "theft" no longer exists.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 35 points 2 months ago

Therefore ownership means nothing, and “theft” no longer exists.

WOAH WOAH WOAH... hold on there Circuitfarmer (checks clipboard) It says here you're not nearly affluent enough to circumvent the law... we'll be keeping a close eye on you... --BB

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[–] FolknForage@lemm.ee 96 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

“No wars but class wars” as true today as when Trotsky said it many decades ago. Not sure how anyone cannot see this very, very clear fact, made self evident by the treatment of Luigi and the composition of the upcoming administration and its supporters.

But every other commoner that sees it needs to take according measures.

Culture is not our friend.

[–] SoftTeeth@lemmy.world 85 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 53 points 2 months ago

“Trickle down economics only occurs when the wealthy bleed.”

Similar, and appropriate. The working class will only benefit once the wealthy are no longer wealthy.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 83 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Righteous censorship, got it.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 59 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Can’t have a “terrorist” demonstrating his competence and productivity after all.

The overlords know they’ve really fucked up when the competent, productive people start getting resentful and side-eyeing the system.

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 60 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Stopped using stack overflow ages ago because of how many assholes there are there.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I also stopped posting there years ago for much the same reason. You could feel the strangulation of the community as duplicate questions started getting shouted down, posts got turned into "community wikis" against your will and your own questions started getting edited to better fit someone else's plans and ideologies. The company was sold shortly after, so maybe animals can sense their pending extinction (some of them anyway)?

I miss those days when writing an answer genuinely felt like helping to grow the global community of friend developers. It's a shame no technology has been discovered that will let the small amount of collective good in us all work together against the assholes, but alas it seems the opposite is always true.

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 52 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Assigning to a number like they do prisoners.

Disgusting behaviour from Stack Overflow and the perpetrators.

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 44 points 2 months ago

Stack being weird and toxic I'm shocked, shocked I tell you

[–] solomon42069@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Is there a mirror for Stacks content? I've been concerned for some time that they are a vital resource that a corporation could ruin at any moment.

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[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Jean Valjean was labelled prisoner number 24601, apropos of nothing

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[–] poo@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Stack Overflow fucking sucks, it's dead.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just like Brian Thompson yahooooooooo

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[–] BigBrainBrett2517@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago (3 children)

His name was Robert Paulson. His name was Luigi Mangione.

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