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The erasure of Luigi Mangione (substack.evancarroll.com)
submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by dexa_scantron@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world
 

Right now, on Stack Overflow, Luigi Magione’s account has been renamed. Despite having fruitfully contributed to the network he is stripped of his name and his account is now known as “user4616250”.

This appears to violate the creative commons license under which Stack Overflow content is posted.

When the author asked about this:

As of yet, Stack Exchange has not replied to the above post, but they did promptly and within hours gave me a year-long ban for merely raising the question. Of course, they did draft a letter which credited the action to other events that occurred weeks before where I merely upvoted contributions from Luigi and bountied a few of his questions.

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 432 points 11 months ago (20 children)

user4616250 will now be a famous meme. "How do we fix healthcare? We call user4616250."

[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 88 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Do not forget me user4616250

Look down, look down You'll always be a slave Look down, look down You're standing in your grave

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago

Anytime a CEO does something questionable; "/ping user4616250"

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 223 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 164 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Headquarters seems to be:

70 White Lion Street, London, England, N1 9PP

To send all your angry letters too.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 111 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Make sure to include bullet points

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 66 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Bullet points work best when using a 9mm font size.

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 204 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Stack Overflow has been toxic for a long time already. It's one of the things that a lot of people seem pleased to see AI devour.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 63 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I've read it is still well valued because people will keep asking questions there when LLM can't answer, so they remain a precious source of post LLM curated Q&A.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 57 points 11 months ago (18 children)
[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 40 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Until it's just AIs answering questions asked by other AIs while human admins block human accounts..

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 198 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (16 children)

I cross posted this to Hacker News (which is very pro-CEO and big corpo) and it's now rank 1 on the front page, lmao. People really support this guy

(And it's funny because in the comments, people are seething "Nooooo he's not popular, look at these polls that show he has 13% approval!!")

(Not sharing link to avoid brigade)

[–] Dayroom7485@lemmy.world 116 points 11 months ago (5 children)

The submission has been clearly penalized by hn moderators: Posted 3h ago, upvoted >600 times with almost 500 comments, ranking 23rd on the front page. Ranking first currently is a submission with 80 upvotes, posted 1h ago.

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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 166 points 11 months ago (11 children)

What can Stack Overflow's motivation possibly be to strip Luigi's account? Are their private equity owners in cahoots with health insurance executives?

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 154 points 11 months ago (2 children)

A connection I may be inventing comes to mind: all the CEOs making million dollar donations to the new administration in the US.

Basically, show you’re on the side of “law and order” and hope you’re not caught up in any purges.

[–] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 87 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 65 points 11 months ago

Kiss the ring.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 158 points 11 months ago (3 children)

They're scared of Luigi still, got it

[–] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 114 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

That's not what the article is about. Stack Overflow has kept content that Luigi created up, but removed his username, in violation of Creative Commons. Edited the post to make that more clear.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 69 points 11 months ago (10 children)

If they weren't afraid of what he represents they wouldn't have removed his name.

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[–] dumbass@leminal.space 40 points 11 months ago (3 children)

No, they're terrified of us now, they know we tasted blood and are hungry for more.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 139 points 11 months ago (1 children)

On Stack Exchange, all of the contributions on the site are contributed under a license maintained by a third party called Creative Commons [...] the work remains properly attributed.

This is the main issue IMO

[–] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I edited the post to call that out specifically

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 130 points 11 months ago (17 children)

By this logic, everyone charged (not convicted, just charged) should have their accounts and submissions changed in the same manner as Luigi's.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 61 points 11 months ago

Man I sure wish this'd mean all Trump-generated content and speeches got deleted. That'd be genuinely helpful to the world at least...

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[–] john89@lemmy.ca 115 points 11 months ago (3 children)

That's fucking bullshit.

Censorship needs to die.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago

platforms like this are essentially private ownership of the commons

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 109 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Apropos of nothing, this was an article about substance from a year ago:

Substack faces user revolt over anti-censorship stance on neo-Nazis

Fuck substack.

Shit, this article is about stack overflow, not substack. Too early, but still fuck substack.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 11 months ago (8 children)

"Censorship forced me to flee a pro-nazi site to another pro-nazi site," is a contradiction worth noting. It highlights the general pro-nazi vibe going around big tech.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 102 points 11 months ago (13 children)

As of yet, Stack Exchange has not replied to the above post, but they did promptly and within hours gave me a year-long ban for merely raising the question.

Laws mean nothing anymore. Therefore licenses mean nothing. Therefore ownership means nothing, and "theft" no longer exists.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 35 points 11 months ago

Therefore ownership means nothing, and “theft” no longer exists.

WOAH WOAH WOAH... hold on there Circuitfarmer (checks clipboard) It says here you're not nearly affluent enough to circumvent the law... we'll be keeping a close eye on you... --BB

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[–] FolknForage@lemm.ee 96 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

“No wars but class wars” as true today as when Trotsky said it many decades ago. Not sure how anyone cannot see this very, very clear fact, made self evident by the treatment of Luigi and the composition of the upcoming administration and its supporters.

But every other commoner that sees it needs to take according measures.

Culture is not our friend.

[–] SoftTeeth@lemmy.world 86 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 53 points 11 months ago

“Trickle down economics only occurs when the wealthy bleed.”

Similar, and appropriate. The working class will only benefit once the wealthy are no longer wealthy.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 83 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Righteous censorship, got it.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 59 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Can’t have a “terrorist” demonstrating his competence and productivity after all.

The overlords know they’ve really fucked up when the competent, productive people start getting resentful and side-eyeing the system.

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 62 points 11 months ago (11 children)

Stopped using stack overflow ages ago because of how many assholes there are there.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I also stopped posting there years ago for much the same reason. You could feel the strangulation of the community as duplicate questions started getting shouted down, posts got turned into "community wikis" against your will and your own questions started getting edited to better fit someone else's plans and ideologies. The company was sold shortly after, so maybe animals can sense their pending extinction (some of them anyway)?

I miss those days when writing an answer genuinely felt like helping to grow the global community of friend developers. It's a shame no technology has been discovered that will let the small amount of collective good in us all work together against the assholes, but alas it seems the opposite is always true.

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 53 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Assigning to a number like they do prisoners.

Disgusting behaviour from Stack Overflow and the perpetrators.

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 45 points 11 months ago

Stack being weird and toxic I'm shocked, shocked I tell you

[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Jean Valjean was labelled prisoner number 24601, apropos of nothing

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[–] poo@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Stack Overflow fucking sucks, it's dead.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just like Brian Thompson yahooooooooo

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[–] BigBrainBrett2517@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago (3 children)

His name was Robert Paulson. His name was Luigi Mangione.

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