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A couple of days ago i noticed something off with blahaj.zone. I couldn't see images posted by users on blahaj, so i thought it was a problem on their side.

Well guess fucking what? After 3 days, it was STILL broken, so i opened it and...

Blocked. They fucking blocked blahaj.zone. Actually beyond parodyπŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ Why? What was the point? there's trans content literally everywhere on lemmy. what's next, block them all? So now if i want to see a post by a user on blahaj, i have to turn on my VPN (protonvpn.com is also blocked in saudi, jfc) just to see it. Fuck this place. πŸ™„

I swear a couple of days ago it worked. This is a mild annoyance (hence the community) but still.

It's so over guys, MBS said no more 196 πŸ˜”

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Is it weird this makes me proud to be a blahaj user?

Like when a transphobic government starts hating, you know you’re doing something right.

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I guess MBS didn't like 196 πŸ˜”

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Dude was like

β€œSmall community of queer people. Not on my watch”

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

Ngl, I can actually imagine saying that. Not doing that of course, because he already did so πŸ˜‚

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 22 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

If I were in Saudi Arabia I'd be using a VPN anyways.

Also, if I were in Saudi Arabia, I'd be trying to leave Saudi Arabia

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

the government also thretens people who use vpn with jail and heavy fines

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Easier said than done. At least, for the second one.

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

What are the obstacles in the way of leaving?

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 9 points 5 hours ago

Getting citizenship is hard, (even asylum is turned down often). You need a stable job in that country, and above average skills to prove your worth. If not, you'll be deported back.

You also need to stay in that country for [upto] 10 years.

And you have to leave everything behind, your culture, your family, and your friends. It would be too dangerous to go back. And they might not even accept you, immigration is brutal.

Even after you become a citizen, many people will never truly accept you as your own, and see you as an immigrant, never as a citizen.

And Saudi Arabia is well known to harass, spy on, and even kill dissidents. There was a scandal with twitter, where the Sauds bought up large amounts of stocks, then ordered 3,000 Saudi dissident's private info. Even in other countries you aren't safe.

And money. You need money. A shit ton of it.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Who's giving you asylum exactly for "I'm from Saudi Arabia"? A refugee camp in North Africa if you're lucky?

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Believe it or not, it's possible. If you're gay, trans, atheist or a whistleblower you are eligible for asylum. But you're right that just being born in Saudi isn't a free ticket to Berlin.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 34 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Hey at least Lemmy is becoming popular enough for the authorities to block us.

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 15 points 9 hours ago

Can't have shit in Saudi, not even Lemmy 😀

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 9 hours ago

KSA and China are like low hanging fruit, it doesn't take much to get blocked there....

Wake me up when OECD countries start blocking us

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 25 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Lol I'd tread a bit carefully.

KSA likes to chase people and have them "disappeared" for their opinions.

I know a guy they picked up for 3 months and when he finally showed up, his poor mouth was zippered shut.

And he was an international too.

I'd look around for a solid VPN solution anyway. Useful to have in any country.

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 13 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (4 children)

That's what i'm afraid of, too. Doing such risky things in the middle of the den of snakes. There isn't much they can do to a visitors like your friend, but they can do what they please to "threats" and dissidents like me.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 20 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Well its Saudi Arabia after all. It isn't exactly known for being all that high on the freedom index. I'm sure you realize that though.

From a technical level there are ways to bypass censorship. The thing to keep in mind is that Saudi Arabia doesn't have any rights for citizens. The law can be enforced arbitrarily and you could just disappear one day. If you are looking for technical information on avoiding censorship I can try to help.

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 11 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (7 children)

Yeah, but it's a little weird how they'd go out of their way to ban such a small and obscure website. I didn't even know the feds knew about lemmy. Besides, it's been fine for a long time for me.

But this was bound to happen eventually, i guess :/

The thing to keep in mind is that Saudi Arabia doesn't have any rights for citizens. The law can be enforced arbitrarily and you could just disappear one day

I am well aware of that :( Hopefully i can disappear out of here before they make me.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

I didn't even know the feds knew about lemmy.

Probably just an automated list of blocking then. At least I would assume theres block lists floating around at those levels

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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Just click there and tell them it shouldn't be blocked.

I am sure they'll listen!

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 15 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

That shit'll get me on a watchlist, trying to access a website for trans people πŸ˜‚

But if i ask nicely...

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I was joking but, maybe go find the worst bigot you know, and do it from their computer?

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

You underestimate how bigoted the average Gulf Arab is, I'd need to do it to everyone πŸ˜…

The average gulf Arab is a competitive racist. Especially with Jews πŸ˜‚

[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 120 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

It sucks, but it's also one positive thing about the Fediverse - if Lemmy was a central platform, it would be completely gone for you now.

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 61 points 15 hours ago (12 children)

Yeah, thank god. I'm more baffled on why fucking saudi arabia would care about a tiny trans-ran instance on a niche software. must've been a slow day there, i guess.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 71 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

youre kidding right. one of the most oppressive shitty, religion-based garbage of a country that subjugates 50% of its population and you wonder why its acting shitty?

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 29 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (4 children)

Use Tor if you can, and people outside of these restrictive countries can help by running Snowflake in their regular browser.

[–] gregor@gregtech.eu 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Ooooh this is a pretty cool tool, I'll set up the docker container on my homelab

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago

That’s a great recommendation, it’s always important to practice bypassing potential censorship as you do not always know what is being hidden from the public.

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 18 points 12 hours ago

Love tor, it's a lifesaver (literally :) ) and thank you for the tip!

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[–] Bezier@suppo.fi 38 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

geoblocked

"Geoblocking" would mean that it's blahaj who don't want saudis on their instance

[–] fxomt@lemm.ee 26 points 13 hours ago

Damn πŸ˜”

yeah that was my bad, sorry

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 12 hours ago (8 children)

texas will probably block us next.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The book bans are currently practice before they start banning more resources such as Wikipedia.

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[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 19 points 13 hours ago (13 children)

My fuckers blocked catbox.moe, most western news sites and slowed down youtube traffic, but lemmy still flies under radar thankfully. I wish you still have your ways to choose what content you want to consume.

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