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[–] celerate@lemmy.world 380 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Dear YouTube, if anyone there ever reads this.

I tried not to block ads, I would let the preroll go and usually not skip it.

I started skipping ads when they started getting long. I recall some were several minutes long at times.

I started leaving videos part way through when there were mid-roll ads, and those got long enough that I'd often forget what I was even watching.

I started blocking the ads outright when I would be watching a relaxing video, and a very loud mid-roll ad would blow out my goddamn eardrums.

Fuck you YouTube. You abused your users, you chased off good content creators, and now you're offering people no carrot and all stick. How about you offer to match the volume of the ads to the videos, limit the length of ads to something reasonable, and nicely tell viewers that you are making ads less annoying and that unblocking the ads helps pay the content creators.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 156 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used to make animations for YouTube, which weren't monetized because I hate ads, and one day they copyright struck me for some very provably public domain music, but the way they did it was to insert ads into my video without my consent so they could monetize them to send the money to the scammer who flagged me. So I just deleted my entire account, fuck them.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That didn't stop you from making cartoons, did it?

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 74 points 1 year ago

No I just went to Vimeo lol

[–] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 year ago

if they're anything like cable ads, they actually make the ads louder than the regular programming on purpose to try to make sure you hear it if you tune out or just walk away. no relaxed, unfocused watching for you!

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[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 126 points 1 year ago (8 children)

If you’re using uBlock Origin. Go to “Filter Lists” and Purge All Caches. That may help.

[–] MoogleMaestro@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I imagine they'll eventually find a way to prevent us from blocking ads. Twitch TV for example has found some ways to make adblock useless.

It's a shame, and it's really just a side effect of google racing to the bottom of the adspace game. If ads weren't as cheap as they are today, they wouldn't be trying to maximize the amount of users who are forced to see advertisements.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I suspect ad blocking will always be an arms race. The server can only ask the client to play the ad, and then rely on the client to truthfully report whether it did so.

[–] r3df0x@7.62x54r.ru 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm sure they'll try to implement some type of DRM BS into the web that allows them. It's one of the good things about projects like Gemini. I used to think it was only good for the novelty of having a web alternative protocol.

No doubt Big Tech would lobby for Microsoft to use Windows to flag Gemini browsers as malicious and then run FUD campaigns against the Gemini protocol

[–] ElectroNeutrino@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

I’m sure they’ll try to implement some type of DRM BS into the web

Funny you say that:

https://www.techdirt.com/2023/08/02/googles-plan-to-drm-the-web-goes-against-everything-google-once-stood-for/

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[–] lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de 124 points 1 year ago (20 children)

to people saying YouTube is a moneysink for google:

yes it is, if you just look at direct expenses of running it. but you're overlooking the fact that it has enabled google to amass so much data(we're taking about 500 hours worth of videos being uploaded per minute) that they can train anything with it.

it's a service that's too big to fail. even whole governments, courts, and other institutions depend on it. so, I refuse to believe that YouTube will be non-existant because a sliver of users refuse to be profiled by invasive advertisements.

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[–] Kumabear@lemmy.world 109 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I am much, much more likely to be willing to pay for Ublock than I am YouTube.

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[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 104 points 1 year ago (19 children)

It's an end of an era. I've been on reddit for over a decade, and on youtube for even longer. Crazy to think I might be giving up both of those services within a few months of each other. Feels like the internet is dying. Oh well. Maybe I'll go back to reading a shitload.

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[–] anewbeginning@lemmy.world 101 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (83 children)

I haven’t watched live tv in almost 20 years because I refuse to sit through ads, and I definitely won’t sit through them on YouTube. If it was a banner or some thing on the page or the side of video that would be more acceptable, but sitting through ads to watch a YouTube video….there’s just no way.

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[–] jcdenton@lemy.lol 97 points 1 year ago (25 children)

If YouTube premium was $4.99 a month it'd be worth a consideration. But then again adblocking is free and privacy respecting

[–] serratur@lemmy.wtf 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm not gonna pay for a service that harvest and sell my data

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 86 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Yeah I could care less about people saying they'd watch ads of they were less intrusive. I'm not, I don't give a fuck about YouTube's sustainability who happened to still have major growth while I ran an AdBlock this entire time.

Maybe I'd consider paying if YouTube was the actual product I was paying for. Instead I get privacy invasive spying and my data being harvested, while am paying to do so. The product I'd want to pay for would have zero privacy invasive stuff involved. Which that isn't going to exist, so I'm never going to pay.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I couldn't* care less.

If you say "I could care less," then it means you're still caring.

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 85 points 1 year ago (19 children)

I don't really know how people can even use YouTube without ad blockers. Sitting through minutes of advertisement is not going to make me want to buy your product if I start mentally associating your product with frustration and annoyance. If these video ads are going to be repetitive and annoying, at least make them funny.

It seems like there is nowhere on the Internet to get away from ads currently, even here, where you thought you are safe, you are now reading an ad for my newest movie (you know the one), now also available on streaming!

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[–] net00@lemm.ee 79 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Youtube is getting on cable tv levels of bad. On a regular ~10min video you will first deal with a few preroll ads and at least one is unskippable, then the creator will have a 2+ minute sponsor segment (I don't mind those since they are usually well presented). There will also be multiple midroll ad spots.

Depending on video length, it's gonna soon be literally more ad than video. They are still stealing and selling your data though, and also making the web worse for everyone with DRM shit.

Fuck. Google.

I had already migrated to Invidious since last year because I degoogled everything. Seems like now its time to look for real youtube alternatives.

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[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Does anyone else remember back in the days of VCR, the networks wanted to push a technology that disallows you from fast-forwarding through ad breaks on the stuff you recorded?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 72 points 1 year ago (14 children)

If you're using UBlock Origin do the following:

Go to settings. Go to Filter Lists. Click purge all caches. Click update now.

That's it, this message should disappear entirely.

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[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 72 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Holy crap

Piped is about to get another user

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[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 65 points 1 year ago (7 children)

How did manipulation to make you buy specific shit become so accepted?

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (30 children)

Because that's the goal of capitalism

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't turned off ad-blocking in 20 years. That's because I "don't allow" companies to use my home and my computer as their place of business.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 59 points 1 year ago (33 children)

Google kind of sucks.

What was their last big success? Google maps? Pretty much everything they do lately is some combination of shitty or prematurely killed.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Google more than just kind of sucks. Like you said they haven’t done shit in a long time outside of making the internet more hostile with shit like this and their planned chrome-based anti adblock (a LOT of browsers run on chromium which would bring the same shit, Mozilla4lyfe)

Also, the google graveyard is just pathetic at this point. They truly can’t do shit outside of anti-user bullshit

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[–] fullstopslash@lemmy.ml 59 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Adblockers are eventually just going to become undetectable because of this. Adblockers are about to get so much better!

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[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 58 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Unpopular opinion: They should've just started charging big creators, kind of like Vimeo. Mofos be having youtube ads, sponsorships, built-in ads, courses, merch stores and patreon, and then they whine when youtube wants them to comply with advertiser's demands.

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[–] Companion1666@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

if only ads arent annoying and loud, i have no problems unblocking them. but damn, they're unbearable atleast in my region.

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (11 children)

ublock origin still blocking everything.

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YouTube is the cable tv of 2023

[–] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] dunestorm@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Unpopular Opinion: I don’t like ads as much as anyone, I’d rather YouTube monetises 1440p and 4k content instead of forcing people to watch ads. YouTube is an extremely expensive business to run, so it being free forever is completely unsustainable.

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[–] Manmikey@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Google recently announced that it's podcast service is shutting down and moving to YouTube music, I don't want or need YouTube music so I've already moved to Podcast Republic, it has a few ads but they can be removed with a small one off payment. Google just wants to shove all it's users into YouTube and YouTube music for maximum ads and data harvesting.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Heads up as more and more people seem to not know this lately: the overwhelming majority of podcasts are officially and legally available without having to pay for them. Traditionally a podcast was just an mp3 or video file someone posted up on their blog that could be subscribed to via a basic RSS feed.

Anyway, on Android Antenna Pod is a great free and open source app for managong podcasts and youe subscriptions to them. Can get it off F-Droid.

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[–] disconnectikacio@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
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