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[–] ozoned@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

And only $13 million per year in 2019, https://archive.ph/oOiK4 , per inmate that's $390,000,000,000 per year. Sounds like a great use of tax payer money.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 3 points 7 hours ago

Let's be realistic here...orange Don doesn't expect any of those people to still be alive after a year, what with all the accidents involving upper storey windows that could just happen at any time, or maybe someone could call for a code red.

[–] ricketyrackets@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Americans. You have a second amendment and a right to utilize that amendment against tyranny.

Exercise your right. In 4 years you won’t have a country that even remotely resembles what is supposed to be America and the land of the free.

Take down the nazis, destroy facism. Fight the power!

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 3 points 7 hours ago

The 2nd amendment was intended to provide a way for citizens to defend themselves from the British, when the US had no standing army. To implement it in modern times when the police are militarised, and soldiers have drones...would be nothing less than suicidal.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 34 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

America's first camp.....in 83 years.

Thanks conservatives.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 2 points 7 hours ago

It won't be the last

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Just a random selection of 30,000 people or for an actual reason?

[–] Biggles@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Well, it's somewhat color dependent.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 3 points 7 hours ago

Sooo..not orange, then?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Does anyone know how big is Guantanamo? It takes a lot of space to imprison 30,000 “worst of the worst” children and other people, along with guards and supplies to keep all of them alive.

Aside from the other glaring problems with this idea, is this even physically plausible?

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Why are you assuming they need supplies to keep them alive? You're forgetting that cruelty is the point for project 2025

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

it’s a pretty big marine base

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 50 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Concentration camp/torture camp.

Lots of people fantasize about what they might do if they had the opportunity to act to stop what was happening in WWII Germany but here we are.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Its worse in some ways, the US is a far bigger country. While the 3rd reich destroyed their economy under the repayment plans of WW1 The US seems to be committing a similar kind of economic suicide with absolutely zero pressure to do so.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 21 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

All the big, strong, don't-tread-on-me styled people just rolling on their backs and showing their bellies to fascism. What a time to be alive, at least Germans of the 1920s-30s didn't have a direct case study to refer to.

[–] __nobodynowhere@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

It's always been "don't tread on me"

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 40 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Speed running the third Reich over here. Has the doctor given him bad news?

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

If Trump dies, you'll have Vance , who is arguably worse, because his brain isn't riddled with cheeseburgers and adderall, but regardless of who is wearing the crown, it's people like Stephen Hitler Miller who is running project 2025 and putting the ideas in Donnie's head.

[–] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 9 points 16 hours ago

Any% nazi run WR incoming

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 28 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Guantanamo Bay... the blacksite for literal terrorists that is considered highly controversial for literal terrorists? What the actual fuck.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

The blacksite for innocent people kidnapped and tortured for 20+ years by the US without allegations and then released*

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 2 points 13 hours ago

Indeed, not that it wasn't actually filled with victims, more that people who think it specifically houses terrorists think it is unfit/illegal for that purpose.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 36 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

Both the most US thing you could possibly do AND a gross violation of what the US aspires to be.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 16 points 17 hours ago
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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Are they just reviewing all the accusations they made about Democrats over the past few years and just using that as a template for what they want to do.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 24 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (14 children)

for those of you who live in the US: there must surely be Republican voters being appalled by this too, right? ~Right?~

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 23 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Our people are horrible, vindictive morons.

And I don't mean that from a place of emotional response to bad things, I am saying all of this dispassionately and analytically. The country has a large population of people who are objectively horrible, and vindication has become our primary focus for political action, and this is all because they're generally morons.

I can't even really exaggerate or overplay this. The average American's intelligence is worse than abysmal. I used to lead a team of data-workers at a large company, we had nice, casual morning meetings and talked about the latest events for about a half hour before work. I ended up in the position of people bringing me news stories and headlines to "translate" for them. I had to explain what planets are, I had to explain how gravity works, I had to explain how democracy works, I had to explain history and math and facts and ratios and words like "industrious" or "ambivalent" every day, over and over. AND I'M NOT A SMART PERSON. I have always prided myself on being informed, but at some point I became the one-eyed king in the land of the blind and I hate it.

Everything here is going to get so, so much worse because I know how far down the barrel goes, and we haven't even touched the bottom yet.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Yup.

Remove Donald Trump and Republicans from the equation and you still have a nation overflowing with unrealistically ignorant and hateful people.

That problem doesn't go away with whoever's in charge of our politics.

Our situation is 100% guaranteed to get much, much worse. And probably for the rest of our lives.

[–] __nobodynowhere@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago

They'll just refuse to acknowledge it

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Nah. If there's a percentage of conservatives who have come to realize the mistake they've made, it's vanishingly small.

We're talking about a group of people uniformly ignorant and hateful. You have to be to support the conservative ideology. Those are prerequisites.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 11 points 18 hours ago

They'll claim they disagree with it and they don't like Trump (except for -insert all his policies-) and then vote for him for a third term when he makes that legal. They need to pretend not to salivate about oppressing brown people when they are in polite company but that's about it.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 48 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

MAGA has a hardon for cruelty. It's about hurting people. They love the idea a rounding up non-white people, loading them into boxcars, and shipping them off to concentration camps. Everything that Trump has done so far is going make billionaires richer and regular Americans much poorer but as long as he's hurting non-whites they will sit around giving each other rage handies and praising him.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

but as long as he’s hurting non-whites they will sit around giving each other rage handies and praising him

What I find fascinating is the right-wing illegal immigration latinos who support Trump. Up until now they've been saying "He's not going to deport us, he's deporting the criminals". I just read a news article about half of the people they've arrested so far did not have any criminal records.

White House press secretary goes live the other day and says "We're going to deport all of them. They're all criminals as far as I'm concerned"

I think people have this instinctual burning desire to feel part of an "in-group" and to hate against an "out-group". It's such a strong burning desire that people will jump through so many mental hoops even when they are in the "out-group".

Note that being illegal is not a crime. It's like when you get a parking ticket. It's against the law but it isn't a criminal violation. But of course the administration doesn't care and neither does the army of rabid Americans cheering on the destruction of the country.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 25 points 19 hours ago (2 children)
[–] kava@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Immigration detention centers have been around for a while now. Virtually all of them ran by private corporations. People rail against private prisons but they make up a tiny tiny minority of prisoners. Over 90% of immigration detention centers are privately owned.

So we're going to throw millions of people into camps so that a few corporations can extract a ton of public taxpayer money. They're also gonna stay there for years because it's logistically impossible to move over 10 million people quickly.

I didn't think fascism would happen again my lifetime. But I guess here we are

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Moving them is expensive, just letting them die in poor conditions or working them to death is far cheaper... Seeing how it happened yet?

[–] kava@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

exactly. it escalates over time as things become normalized.

if there are 10 stages we're like at stage 3

in 2016 we were at stage 1. back then, Trump wouldn't dare have said "immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country" - that wouldn't have had a good reception back then. too on the nose. but you start with more subtle things and slowly you shift the overton window of what is and isn't socially acceptable

it's a treadmill and we're jogging

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 20 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

So trump is going to build "housing" for 30.000 people, plus possibly hundreds of guards, who all need food, guards will need actual housing with maybefamilies who will need recreation too..

Just saying, this sounds like a VERY expensive distraction from the fact that they're working hard on robbing the US coffers blind...

Now make this for the 20 million or so, and you get to understand why the US will be bankrupt and over 4 years from now if this idiots continues this

[–] kava@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

Just saying, this sounds like a VERY expensive distraction from the fact that they’re working hard on robbing the US coffers blind…

Doesn't matter if the country goes broke. Something like 90% of immigration detention centers are privately owned. This whole thing is going to funnel hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars of taxpayer money right into the pockets of wealthy shareholders.

[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 40 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I'm sure imprisoning 30000 innocent people next to highly trained terrorists won't come back to haunt the US.

[–] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago

Radicalizing 30k people

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