this post was submitted on 01 Feb 2025
48 points (96.2% liked)

Asklemmy

47180 readers
1024 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy πŸ”

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 6 years ago
MODERATORS
Cloak@lemmy.ml
mekhos@lemmy.ml
tmpod@lemmy.pt
14specks@lemmy.ml
48
Question about instances (lemmy.world)
submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by PixellatedDave@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
50 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

I have been on Lemmy for a while now but never posted anything as a new post so please forgive me if I am doing anything wrong.

I see that I am part of lemmy.world and that this instance is frowned upon.

Is there a better instance I can join? I am not very clued up on Lemmy and as far as I can see it is made up of lots of different sites which are linked together.

I just want to be part of a healthy group and I am just getting into astronomy so are there any good groups for that please?

If it helps I am based in the UK.

Have a great weekend all.

Edit: sorry for the late response another 6 day week at work. Thank you all so much for the very useful advice!

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy.world, by political ideology, is most similar to old Reddit. Namely, you're most likely going to find generally-left-of-center people. Several other instances (namely lemmy.ml) are known for being significantly more left-leaning, basically hard communist.

As is tradition for left-leaning people, there's a lot of infighting. .world people think that .ml people are tankies. .ml people think that .world people are corporate bootlickers. Both sides accuse the other of heavy-handed censorship.

Basically, I wouldn't worry about it. It's just your standard leftism infighting.

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 months ago

I've rarely seen people of the left on lemmy.world. Not never, just rarely

Not sure if you're talking about vibes like US Democrats voters or something

[–] Karmmah@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

Lemmy.world is not frowned upon. There are some people who are very vocal about not liking it but if you don't have any problems you don't need to change. There is also nothing stopping you from having accounts on diferent instances so try some of them out and stay where you like it.

[–] LedgeDrop@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Lemm.ee: It's the Switzerland of the fediverse. ;)

The Operations Team are a stand-up group. Their focus is on delivering stability.

You'll basically get access to all content (and all "features", like up-vote and down-vote - I'm looking at you beehaw).

What I've heard from other people is that they want automagic curated content... so you won't find that a lemm.ee, but for me - I'm happy to find the content that's meaningful to me.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

+1 for lemm.ee. The admin team is awesome, the instance is very stable, and the users are pretty chill. It’s like the meme where there’s a guy with a bong while the other people (aka the 2-3 biggest instances) are fighting.

[–] PixellatedDave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I will check them out

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago (9 children)

People frown upon lemmy.world because it's a politically American center-right instance on a leftist social media platform that bans leftist discourse via defederation.

If your politics align w them and you don't mind them deciding what you can and can't see on your behalf, you'll do fine there.

I switched from lemmy.world because of that and switched to an instance that doesn't make a habit of defederating from the most active instances (ie hexbear) and there's also another center-right instance named lemm.ee that also doesn't defederate.

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I don't agree with Lemmy world censorship as well and that's why I spinned my own instance. The beauty of a federated environment

[–] PixellatedDave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Good to know

[–] PixellatedDave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the insight

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Np and I can see that you've gotten an introduction to the political culture war that's being waged on lemmy (assuming you weren't already aware). Lol

One more piece of info that I wished someone had given me when I first started is that a huge majority of lemmings are cool; but there are significantly more center-right users than leftist users so you'll see more of the vitriol you witnessed in this post coming from the center-right instances like lemmy.world and lem.ee, but the leftists are a scrappy bunch so they'll respond in kind and mostly from hexbear; hence the defederations.

[–] PixellatedDave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Ah gotcha. I guess people will be people but I wish it wasn't so easy to divide us so we could work to common good and change but I know that's just a dream.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

My recommended are:

lemmy.dbzer0.com

sh.itjust.works

lemmy.ca

sopuli.xyz

If it helps I am based in the UK.

feddit.uk seems like a great fit, your fellow compatriots are on there πŸ˜…

[–] PixellatedDave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cheers mate will have a look

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Obviously you will make up your own mind, but I have had to block shitjustworks entirely, due to the amount of fashposting I've seen from there. For comparison, Lemmy.world often annoys the shit out of me, but I haven't had to block the whole thing. The main thing is how the instance moderates. You can always block users and communities, but those "light-touch moderation" instances will always end up full of the worst people.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago

For astronomy there is !astronomy@mander.xyz. The communities on mander.xyz are STEM focussed and usually well moderated.

You could also try

As for the instance, stay wherever you feel most comfortable. I have a few alts on other instances, including lemmy.world. You're also free to move later if you decide to.

If it helps I am based in the UK.

You can also check out the instance / communities at

https://feddit.uk/

[–] thezeesystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Try different ones out. I personally avoid Lemmy.world as there more pro capatilism and Oligarchy then other instances. And tend to block instances that are against capatilism and Oligarchy.

[–] Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone 8 points 2 months ago

It’s very much the reddit of Lemmy in that regard.

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A small list of cool instances:

  • lemmy.blahaj.zone : chill place and people, LGBT (and especially trans) friendly

  • hexbear.net : very active and friendly instance that used to be separate from Lemmy. Most people are very various lefties

  • lemmy.ml : generalist instance, moderated by the devs of Lemmy. It is not marketed as a left instance but some socialists join there because of the .ml (Marxism Leninism)

[–] prototype_g2@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Interested in astronomy you say? Well mander.xyz describe themselves as a "An instance dedicated to nature and science.". They have a astronomy community with, some activity - !astronomy@mander.xyz. I'm not on mander so I don't know how things are there, but I pretty much don't ever see anyone complaining about it.

feddit.uk is a UK instance. So there might be some interesting things there for you.

lemmy.ee is known for not defederating unless absolutely necessary.

On the topic of defederating, lemmy.world is somewhat disliked due to their defederation happy tendencies. For the most part, though, this whole instance wars thing is mostly due to disagreements on what kind of political discourse should be allowed. Instances like lemmygrad.ml, hexbear.net and lemmy.ml are a bit too left-wing for many people from the center-right to handle: the world views are just too different.

I could rant about the dam instance wars, but it is not what you came were for.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

lemmy.ee is known for not defederating unless absolutely necessary.

It's "lemm.ee" btw. I'm guessing autocorrect? Gboard ironically made the exact same mistake for me when I tried to correct you.

[–] PixellatedDave@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Thanks for the explanation much appreciated

[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Feddit.uk is good if you’re in the UK. Then you can switch to Local and see lots of UK stuff.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, and you can just subscribe to the astronomy communities that are on other instances.

[–] PixellatedDave@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

That's a great idea

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 2 points 2 months ago

You cab join any instance.

In the UK there is feddit.UK which you should definitely checkout!

Or you can spin your own instance too.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Don't worry about it. If you don't post anything they disagree with (and most people don't), you will not be annoyed by them.

If you have only mainstream opinions, you will be fine. You don't question mainstream science, you think everyone needs to vaccinate for the public good, and so on. Nothing strange for the majority.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 0 points 2 months ago

Discuss.online has near 100% uptime and is very fast

The administrators are p. Cool, they're a good community

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you want to stay on lemmy.world, you can. As you can see in the comments, everyones username is @username@instance.name, you can follow communities from any lemmy instance and people from any instance can comment.

As for picking an instance, i'd avoid beehaw.org, hexbear.net, lemmygrad.ml and lemmy.ml.

Lemmy.world is frowned upon because its too big, so it has some performance issues and moderation issues.

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Queer people suggesting not to join instances fighting for their rights, with 0 given reason is kind of wild not gonna lie

Many of us here are queer as well and I don't think I'll ever understand right-wing LGBT

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This was a while ago, but I want to clarify,

I reccommended avoiding beehaw because its typically not what people are looking for out of lemmy. Don't get me wrong, they have a great community and its very well moderated, but its likely not what OP wanted.

I didn't reccommend hex, grad and .ml because of the tankies and because they are controversial and get defederated a lot. I have immense respect for hexbears defense of lgbt rights, but they probably aren't the best for your average lemmy worlder.

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thank you for clarifying but I think you go over the main topic a bit quickly. What does it mean "because of the tankies"? Who are the tankies and what have they done that is to be avoided by going to another instance?

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, the people who are fans of authoritiarian regimes(like the soviet union), and are pro china/russia. Those instances specifically house those people, which leads to them getting defederated from major instances.

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Again, thank you for trying to explain.

I consider I understand enough to answer then. Please don't take my judgements personally or as an insult.

I think this is biased view of the socialists of Lemmy. They have a critical support (mostly positive and negative on the negative parts) of the people revolution of 1917 in Russia and the Soviet union. They also have a critical support of China and encroyages it's socialist ways, they are the biggest communist lead country today and a wonderful counter power to the US and EU imperialism (the enabler of capitalism, don't mix up other weird definitions). They have a small critical support of Russia, because even though they can't support it's government for its ideology, it also participates in anti-US imperialism. Socialists don't praise authoritarian "regimes" (yep, that's a clue of propaganda regurgitation). Socialists do support something also called dictatorship, but it's the dictatorship of proletariat, to reverse the current dictatorship of the bourgeoisie

What leads liberal (which is the idealogy of capitalism, not any another weird definition) instances of Lemmy to defedarate is because... they are liberal. It is difficult for people evolving in a liberal society, drenched in daily capitalist propaganda to accept challenging views

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

I don't have the time to write a full reply right now, but I just used the word "regime" to describe any sort of a system. I would refer to the u.s as a capitalist regime, for example. Am I using it wrong?

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

I'm not right wing, Im just not a fan of tankies.