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When AD was traded to LA, most people felt as though the Lakers were fleeced. As a fan of the Lakers, I too thought we gave up just a bit to much because “who were we bidding against”? Ask Pat Riley how that turned out for the Heat. (Although that trade isn’t looking too good for MKE right about now).

Anyway, let’s take a look at what is left from the Pelicans haul.

Brandon Ingram, CJ McCollumn (sort of), Herb Jones (sort of), Dyson Daniels, and a 2025 1st.

Jaxson Hayes is now on the Lakers and playing well in preseason, NAW is on the TWolves and playing very well. Lonzo was traded for Devonte Graham, Satoransky, Garrett Temple and a 2nd.

David Griffin was thought of extremely highly back in 2020, but his mismanagement of assets, poor drafting, and lack of success in developing a good culture in New Orleans has been down right atrocious since.

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[–] Potential-Host-6281@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Lakers definitely won that trade.
It would be ironic if they use the 2025 1st to pick either of Lebron's kid and get LeBron as well (via trade request).

[–] LoxDnw@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

None of that will ever be as good as AD. Lakers won that trade, as they also won a ring.

[–] TallanoGoldDigger@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

WEMBY AND CHIP

[–] itsnotyellowfever@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Not surprised the Dame trade is already a bust after one terrible preseason showing in OKC

[–] kuliebop@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"most people felt as though the Lakers were fleeced"

Nope.

[–] Equivalent_Bet1519@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes they did lol stop rewriting history

[–] EdwEd1@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

People were saying that 2023 pick swap and 2024 first were going to be some of the most valuable assets in the league lmao

[–] RipCity-NBA-LoL@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's stupid to say the Dame trade isn't looking good due to 2 pre-season games. If by February the Bucks aren't a top-2 seed in the NBA, then we can consider it.

Also, McColumn lol

[–] AR15_He_Is_Him@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I think the Stotts thing isn’t great too.

[–] whowasonCRACK2@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Undrafted Austin Reaves is better than every single draft pick the Lakers gave up in the trade. Anyone saying the lakers got fleeced was dumb at the time and ever dumber after the championship

[–] brandoi@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Obviously in hindsight, but it's wild because at the 4th pick they could've had Garland. At 8th pick they could've had Rui or Cam Johnson. Dyson Daniels is TBD, I'm pretty high on him. And still one more pick to go, but it's looking pretty good lol.

[–] MidLaneBanter@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

they got the 8th pickby trading 4

[–] XenaRen@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Why can’t it be a win win trade

[–] Significant_Lie_6342@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Pelicans could of got SGA and that will forever set their franchise back

[–] UnitedStateOfDenmark@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Getting future firsts are overrated. How many times has it resulted in acquiring a top 5 pick.

The Boston/Nets situation was unique since the owner went from willing to spend an unlimited amount of money to cutting all money and trying to sell the team. Same situation with the Blazers getting Dame from the Nets. Maybe this is just a Nets thing because they decided to stay put with a very mediocre team that could result in giving the Rockets a top 5 pick this year from the Harden trade.

Other than the Nets, teams will go all out the year their unprotected picks are due. We're seeing it now, when it's time to pay up, teams like the Rockets are willing to go all out not to give up a top 5 pick.

I'm ready to be schooled and provided tons of examples when future unprotected picks ended up being a top 5 pick. Can anyone give examples outside of the Nets picks in recent history?

[–] hurrakane212@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unprotected Clippers 1st rounder went to Cavaliers in the Baron Davis/Mo Williams trade and that future first round pick became Kyrie Irving.

[–] UnitedStateOfDenmark@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

That’s a good one.

[–] justintensity@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The Lakers traded Gail Goodrich for the Jazz's 1980 pick which turned out to be the #1 following a coin flip. Two years later, the same Lakers got the #1 pick beacuse Ted Stepien is a dipshit and drafted James Worthy

[–] UnitedStateOfDenmark@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was thinking more recent, like last 20 years.

[–] justintensity@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

So since 2003 but excluding the most obvious examples? Any more rules you would like to add?

Denver got Murray in the top 10 with a pick from the Carmelo trade

[–] John_The_Reddit_Man@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Who are they bidding against is the most novice take I keep hearing parroted.

Who were they bidding against? The answer was there 4 years ago.

A non deal, and time.

Look at what happened to Damian Lillard, Paul George, Kawhi Leonard. The team can simply keep the player and wait until they change their demands or take a lesser deal from a team gambling. It happens all the time

[–] _Wado3000@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I really hope Lakers fans talk themselves into Jaxson Hayes being a difference maker. Will be absolutely comedy to see public opinion inevitably change in real time

[–] AR15_He_Is_Him@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

He’s a third sting center

[–] RVAIsTheGreatest@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Lakers won a championship, so they won the trade. But the haul the Pelicans got after subsequent moves is still a solid one. It's not a win/win, at least not yet, but the Pelicans didn't lose.

[–] W_Walk@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Lakers of course won since they have a ring. Personally I liked the trade and think Pels got a ton of good value in it but it’s silly to say we “won” anything.

[–] IdRatherBeLurkingToo@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Stop spamming this sub with your bullshit ya bum

[–] FatherHaz@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

They both won the trade

[–] Ob1toUch1ha@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

A big point that people forget is that before the AD trade in the offseason, the Lakers almost got AD at the trade deadline with Magic negotiating with the Pelicans. His offer at the deadline was for more steep than what the Lakers ended up giving up in the end. The original offer included Kuzma, Rondo, and more picks on top of giving Lonzo and Ingram. That trade was legitimately a win for the Lakers, they gave up less and won a chip with AD.

[–] ALovelyAnxiety@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

most ppl who? lol