"timeline." A completely hollow term that fans just throw around constantly but it doesn't actually mean anything. A fan of a 20 win team talking about not wanting to sign a 26 yo FA cause they're "old" and doesn't fit their "timeline." I swear some fans legit think you can just build a roster of 20 year old's and sim the next 5 seasons irl.
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"Timelines" only exist when you have an established superstar in his prime. Like the Bucks can't trade Khris for a raw 19 year old, even if they are guaranteed to become an all star at 26, because by then it's too late for Giannis.
Felt like I was going insane during the dame trade saga and the Toronto rumors, there were people saying OG doesn’t fit the blazers timeline.
As a Nuggets fan watching this team come into its own there were people crying about Paul Millsap getting signed a few years ago because he was older. It is vital for young budding stars to have wisened vets and it is now important for top heavy contenders to fill in their roster with rookie contracts. There are plenty of other roster issues (like getting mediocre starters to come in and take minutes from developing players), but that isnt about timeline as much as not having a good vision for the future.
I think saying clueless or something to that effect is too mean, its more like wish fulfillment or regular fan delusion but the most common and egregious one is "if he learns to shoot" or "he doesn't even need to learn to shoot" or some variation of it. This isn't about any single player specifically although it applies to many now and in the past. No other sport has this kind of phenomenon, the most important part of the entire game and people treat it as a minor inconvenience that can be bypassed and yet every single year in the playoffs guys who are even mediocre and even average 3 point shooters are exposed and completely ignored by defenses and it works.
Why doesn't the largest player simply eat the smaller players?
Give Wemby time
X coach sucks because of rotations and adjustments.
Actually name an adjustment/rotation issue and how it can be solved or I assume you are a moron when you use those words.
Rotations are my favorites. People will lose their shit at a coach because of a rotation that didn't work well for 5 minutes. But forget that same rotation worked well the previous night
There are many times fans are right tho. I'm sure Laker nation has been putting Ham on blast for 3 and 4 guard lineups with the stats to back it up
Being delusional about what other teams would give up in trade value because your home team deserves it.
"Wasting player x's years on this team, trade him to a contender"
if you could just lock arms around Steph he can shoot all he wants
"Not guilty, your honor."
Coaching rotations
"Eye test and watch the tape"
Both are just code for "i like/hate this player but have zero factual arguments to back my love/hate for said player"
And then even if they do watch some random youtube highlights, those people arent trained to actually know what and how to look for.
Everything will be perfect and wonderful assuming he's healthy.
They get paid millions to put a ball in a basket
College players actually play defense unlike the NBA
Being told we need to go all in for a star right now and fuck up our rebuild like a lot teams seem to enjoy doing
Retroactive Draft Shaming
"We could've drafted Giannis/Kawhi/Jimmy Butler/Patrick Mahomes!"
Yes, clearly there are good picks and bad picks, but players tend to go where they do for a reason, context matters, and the range of outcomes is large and unknown.
Someone a while back posted that the Jazz passed on Jimmy Butler and Kawhi Leonard... twice! and was sick over it.
Kawhi went #15 and Jimmy went #30 in 2011.
Enes Kanter, who the Jazz picked 3rd, was considered a top prospect at the time.
Additionally, the 10-11 Jazz were jammed at forward and had AK47 playing starter minutes and had just drafted Gordon Hayward.
It would've been insane if they had taken either Jimmy or Kawhi at the small forward position, especially with a team full of veterans that thought they should be competing (lol).
If they take either of them at 3 they get laughed out and who knows how their careers would've gone. I believe Kawhi would've been good, but he couldn't shoot for shit in college and learned that at San Antonio.
A corollary is the pick shaming:
"That draft pick ended up being Ricky Rubio!"
You have to evaluate the trade at the front end, not the back end.
You don't know. You're just doing the best with the information you have.
Bane could have been a Celtic
“Here comes often Rivers”
He’s got that dog in him
“X team/player just isn’t clutch.”
We hate to admit this, but a lot of sports is luck. Sometimes the ball just doesn’t bounce your way. There are exceptions, but way fewer than your average fan would admit.
The assumption that a plus wingspan and above-average athleticism = great defender, or potentially great defender, totally discounting the mental and BBIQ aspects of defense.