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Consistently short sleep duration more likely to precede symptoms than inverse, genetic data reveal

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[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This was my exact response after reading the headline. And then again when I read the article.

[–] Why9@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So you're depressed and can't sleep, so you sleep less which makes you more depressed, which means you fall asleep late, so you get even less sleep...

"Just snap out of it" - people who have no idea what you're going through

[–] aslkpoqw@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

"Just snap out of it" hits close to home. I didn't realize a lot about depression and felt like I could just eat right or exercise... The Hilarious World of Depression podcast really helped me figure out we aren't just a good day away from being fine.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

That's okay, your boss just installed a suicide net outside the building.

[–] s_s@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

It's 4am and I just woke up because a pack of coyotes were screaming and sounding like the Halloween score.

I get on Lemmy. I read this.

Fuck.

[–] Blackout@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

Good thing I get 6 a night, only have Depression Lite™

[–] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Less than 7 hours will fuck me up

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Let's get back to the office and commute, so we can all be depressed.

[–] Vyllenor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What if you supplement it with an afternoon nap tho?

[–] deus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Polyphasic sleep! If you do it right you could probably be able to feel fully rested this way while sleeping fewer hours in total than you would in traditional monophasic sleeping.

[–] Brainsploosh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Do a study and publish!

Polyphasic sleep is sorely understudied, and iirc we barely understand if it's not harmful.

[–] CarlsIII@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I know

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s great but then why the fuck can I never fall asleep until unreasonably late

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Anxiety. Which is possibly causing the depression.

Could somebody get my anxiety on the phone? It's gonna wanna hear this.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“We have this chicken or egg scenario between suboptimal sleep duration and depression. They frequently co-occur, but which comes first is largely unresolved. Using genetic susceptibility to disease we determined that sleep likely precedes depressive symptoms, rather than the inverse,”

I don't agree with this position. They may have proven sleep disregulation can be a prodromal symptom but I highly doubt it's causitive.

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can fall asleep easily and early, only to be awoken at least once an hour by the baby waking up and crying. That is been going on like that for the last three weeks. Really hoping he will be able to sleep a bit longer soon ^^

[–] pgetsos@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Congrats on the baby! The first few months are hard, but it will get much better soon!

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's already month 7, it was better but got a bit worse now ^^

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you swaddling the baby? That got ours to sleep through the night. It seems like it would be mean, but they like it.

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We did when he was smaller, but now he is over 7 months so I think he needs to be able to move a bit during the night. My guess is that it's probably the 8-Months sleep regression.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I admit, I can't remember how long we did it for. I think until she figured out how to get out of it every night, but I don't know how old she was.