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This is the very essence of the difference that should exist between a President and a King. From Federalist 69:

The President of the United States would be liable to be impeached, tried, and, upon conviction of treason, bribery, or other high crimes or misdemeanors, removed from office; and would afterwards be liable to prosecution and punishment in the ordinary course of law. The person of the king of Great Britain is sacred and inviolable; there is no constitutional tribunal to which he is amenable; no punishment to which he can be subjected without involving the crisis of a national revolution. In this delicate and important circumstance of personal responsibility, the President of Confederated America would stand upon no better ground than a governor of New York, and upon worse ground than the governors of Maryland and Delaware.

The failure of the Republican party to support this kind of check on Presidential power is why we're having this crisis now.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 206 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Oh, shit, so you mean Biden could have just cancelled all that student debt anyway?"

"Well of course not, don't be stupid!"

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 114 points 1 week ago (14 children)

That's the problem with being on the side of the rule of law: you're constrainted by it, but the side of lawlessness is not.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Something about in groups and out groups

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 160 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is the step where the cart goes over the top of the hill, you're not coming back if this starts.

Hard to hear, but if goes forward, this does signal that it's breaking windows time. We all have a Luigi line, start really considering where yours is...

Especially if you're young, and they are doing this before you have been able to establish your own career or a family of your own, the rest of the world needs your strength and energy in these moments. Make no mistake, they are threatening you directly, they want to sell your future for a small profit added to the pile they are hoarding. Decide how hard you want to fight against that

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 91 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Especially if you're older and know that everything you've worked for is at risk. Especially if you're middle aged and your hope of a comfortable old age is being destroyed. Especially if you have family, and know your children's future depends on it.

I know you mean well but fuck ageism, the youth always fight. They don't need a pep talk, older people do.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (5 children)

And then there are the rest of us. Not quite young anymore, but we were robbed of the chance to even have anything to anchor us down. We've been squeezed out of the housing market nearly our entire adult lives. We never could justify having a child, perhaps because of money, perhaps because our consciences wouldn't let us, perhaps because of both. We job-hop every few years already, as it's the only way we've ever received a sizable pay raise.

There is no house, no child, and no job for us to worry about losing. I don't know about y'all, but I've been doing little more than fighting to get by for far too long.

I'm ready to fight for something else.

[–] dustyb0tt0mz@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

wanna live forever? do something memorable.

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[–] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 101 points 1 week ago (12 children)

So, those 2A people being real fuckin quiet now that an actual tyrant is in play.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 35 points 1 week ago

The objection was always that somebody dark-skinned might be President, or that assets might be expropriated from billionaires, not that tyranny might be an issue.

[–] NotBillMurray@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As a leftist who owns firearms, I'm waiting for everything to kick off (in Minecraft obviously)

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 89 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i hope everyone is preparing for all of this to end in violence

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 69 points 1 week ago (9 children)
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[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Time to use those guns you've been hoarding. Wasn't that the reason you're even allowed to have them?

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 week ago

Nah. That was to support the Russian takeover.

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[–] RedirectDeposit@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fuck these bastards

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Is it time to petition the military to intervene?

[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

When I was little, long before I had a reason to want it to be true, I had this theory that the Secret Service, which is obviously not a secret, was called that because they had a secret mandate: If the President ever gets really out of pocket and goes for dictator powers, it's their job to execute him as a traitor.

Anyway, I doubt it's true, but I've been thinking about it a lot lately.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Praetorian Guard killed some emperors, but that isn't an official duty of the Secret Service. Of course, it wasn't an official duty of the Praetorian Guard either.

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Not yet. Trump saying something horrifying while it not being entirely clear he understands what he's actually saying or how anything in government is supposed to work is what we call Monday around here.

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[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That fucking Lizard Peter Thiel fucking rebooted when asked about the popular support for Luigi. The mother fucker had not thought about what happens when we the people get tired of their shit and unite against them. They've spent so much time and money dividing us so they can take it all it never occurred that it might backfire.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That blubbering little weasel. “Y-y-you have to find another way.” I think was the line he used. We tried other ways. Those who make peaceful change impossible make violent revolution inevitable. Luigi showed how to fight back with some effect.

[–] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thiel, Yarvin etc., are all so convinced of their own superiority that any actual challenge to their world view/tactics is completely unexpected. They can only comprehend doing violence to people who won't do anything about it. They get their rocks off over child murderers, and state sanctioned violence, but cry when the people they want to step on show and ounce of spine. It's pathetic.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago

Once again, to no-one's surprise. Trump loudly claimed he would do this long ago

Choose a felon as President, expect him to commit crimes... enjoy

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal"

-- Richard Nixon, 1977.

You've had 47 years to do something about this, to be able to hold your leaders accountable, and apparently it wasn't worth the effort.

I guess the upside is you won't have to worry about all that wasteful election spending any more. 👍

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[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 37 points 1 week ago

lol here it comes.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But he said he'd only be a dictator for one day! Are you saying that's not how dictatorships work?!

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[–] mRbLUE@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Groundwork for a coup by the sounds of it. When the next election is supposed to happen I wonder if he'll declare martial law due to some invented issue.

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[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 33 points 1 week ago

So much for law and order I guess.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These are unamerican people.

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[–] meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago

The gears grind slower each rotation, yet we're still surprised when the machine jams. Constitutional guardrails only work if the drivers pretend they exist—a quaint fiction evaporating under the heat of performative strongman politics. We've seen this before: executive overreach dressed as "emergency," norms crumbling like stale bread.

What's novel is the brazenness. Courts are now just another PR obstacle, their rulings reduced to content for the outrage algorithm. Linz warned of dueling mandates, not this farce where one branch swallows the rest whole. The Founders' checks? Dry rot under the floorboards, termites long since victorious.

Democracy cosplay can't hide the scaffolding. When the executive branch treats the judiciary as a nuisance, the only remaining question is how many will still clap as the curtain falls.

[–] Dotcom@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 week ago (6 children)

So like, when will other countries start letting us evacuate to them?

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (7 children)

We haven't done a whole lot lately to endear ourselves to allies and partner nations unfortunately

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[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I add the following as evidence of premeditation / conspiracy:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/inside-the-new-right-where-peter-thiel-is-placing-his-biggest-bets

“I think Trump is going to run again in 2024,” he [Vance] said. “I think that what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice: Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, replace them with our people.”

“And when the courts stop you,” he went on, “stand before the country, and say—” he quoted Andrew Jackson, giving a challenge to the entire constitutional order—“the chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.”

This is a description, essentially, of a coup.

“We are in a late republican period,” Vance said later, evoking the common New Right view of America as Rome awaiting its Caesar. “If we’re going to push back against it, we’re going to have to get pretty wild, and pretty far out there, and go in directions that a lot of conservatives right now are uncomfortable with.”

“Indeed,” Murphy said. “Among some of my circle, the phrase ‘extra-constitutional’ has come up quite a bit.”

Historical note: as far as I understand, president Jackson ignored the Supreme Court in a case of Georgia taking Cherokee lands. Since the state also ignored, the court failed to enforce its ruling.

[–] mtoboggan@feddit.org 24 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Dear Americans, where are your protests?

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

the mainstream news isn’t covering them… they also edited out people booing trump at the super bowl and edited in cheers

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[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 week ago

There's protests in every state. The media is just ignoring them.

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[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago (6 children)

RIP US constitution.

You were a good constitution and worked as a framework for democracies around the world.

[–] AltheaHunter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 week ago (10 children)

You were a good constitution

Was it though? It institutionalized slavery for nearly a century, was blatantly sexist for well over a century, and enshrined a majoritarian system that created the political duopoly that has plagued the US since its inception.

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago

And unless someone enforces the rules and consequences for breaking them for the first time in his miserable fucking life, he will be correct.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This isn't the failure of the Republican party. This is their victory dance.

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[–] Shawdow194@fedia.io 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Trump administration is not refusing to share power with an opposing party. It is refusing to follow the constitutional limits of a government that its own party controls completely.

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