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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

don't worry, science as conclusions derived from research will soon be replaced by bullshit psuedo-research-AI-word-vomit derived from equally bullshit pre-determined conclusions

[–] JoShmoe@ani.social 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This has already been done by politicians and continues to this day

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And some scientists!

“If I repeat it in enough papers it’ll become true” seems to be the mantra of scientists with hard to defend theories they claim are fact.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_fHJIYENdI

You should really watch this -- AI is being used in real research, and not all of it is bad. Those who think AI is bad are simply uneducated luddites.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 4 months ago

Luddites’ main concern was the systemic redirection of revenue from them, the laborers, to the owners of the factories. They did not simply hate technology for technology’s sake.

The fact that you ignore this basic historical fact betrays an embarrassing ignorance.

I personally don’t give a shit if some AI is used in research. I think that’s awesome. But AI also actively and materially deprives laborers of compensation for their work, both before and after the model training process. And I fucking hate that.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

AI's primary use case so far is to further concentrate wealth with the wealthy, and to replace employees. People who think AI is bad recognize that it is in the hands of the modern generation of robber barons, and serves their interests.

Those who don't recognize this are delusional.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago

AI’s primary use case so far is to further concentrate wealth with the wealthy,

Under capitalism, everything further concentrates wealth with the wealthy because the wealthy are best able to capitalize on anything. Wealth gives you the means to better pursue further wealth.

and to replace employees.

So what you're saying is that we need to dismantle every piece of automation and go back to manufacturing everything by hand with the most basic hand tools possible? Because that will maximize the number of people needed to be employed to produce, well, anything. Anything else is using technology to replace employees.

Or is it just that now we're talking about people working office jobs they thought were automation-proof getting partially automated that's made automation a bad thing?

[–] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

AI as a tool can absolutely be a good thing, just like almost any tool. A tool on its own is neither good nor bad, it's just a tool that can be used. The usage is what makes it good or bad.

Yes, most of what AI is used for now is bad, but it can absolutely be a good thing in the right use cases.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

the problem is that AI can generate a million bogus "research papers" for every single legit paper. and for the general public (ie science writers, bloggers, news reporters, etc.) they are indistinguishable from each other. so unless you have literally done the research on a particular hypothesis yourself (good luck with that, with all the funding cuts), then everything is suspect

so the question of "are we better off with AI?" as of right now, is absolutely fucking not

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Literally you are better off with AI - it's produced some of the most groundbreaking work in decades. You didn't watch the video, did you? AI ended up being better than humans at tasks involving protein folding, so much so that they won a Nobel prize for its use. The breakthroughs of this AI have put us forward in medical research by an order of magnitude. Many orders of magnitude in fact.

AI is more than just LLMs and Stable Diffusors. It's being used in Science by people who aren't reactionaries and anti-tech luddites to give people better vaccines faster, to discover new proteins for antivenom, to ensure a better future for people who need medical care.

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But I said the phrase "scientists don't know everything" so now you have to listen to my bullshit.

[–] Mellibird@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Ahhhhh... Love that line. My brother and his fiance just had a baby and are debating on vaccines or not. They asked me, I said, it's always better to get them and protect your child from as much as you possibly can. Like all of us here are vaccinated. I recommended that they follow what their doctor recommends. My dad chimes in with, "Doctors don't know everything, they're just trying to sell drugs for the pharmaceutical companies, that's all they care about." I looked at him and said, "As someone who studied biology in college, there's a lot that a lot of us don't know. But seeing as that doctor has had significantly more training than I've had, let alone you, I'm going to trust them more than some random article I've read online." He stopped talking to me for a large portion of the day after that.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

what if i watched THREE youtube videos?

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Then baby we got an algorithm going.