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I know that he was extremely popular/famous and there was a lot of interest in him, but being a famous player doesn’t have to be the same as being a loved player.

For example, in todays game, Steph Curry and Kevin Durant are both very famous players in the league who get a lot of attention from media and from Basketball fans, but Curry is a player who seems to be almost universally liked, not many fans have negative feelings about him. Durant on the other hand is as media famous as Curry, but he is less loved, a lot of regular fans have negative feelings about him.

So how was it with Jordan? Yes he was extremely famous. But was he liked/loved by many Basketball fans (apart from Bulls Fans of course)? Or was he just respected? Did many even have negative feelings about him?

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[–] McWhorter44@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Michael Jordan was probably the most popular person on planet Earth besides Michael Jackson. He was/still is loved

[–] KristianFBRLive@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

In the U.S. maybe, but worldwide Maradona and David Beckham were bigger in sports. Michael Jackson, Princess Diana, Nelson Mandela and Madonna probably more recognisable in general global culture.

[–] Hanhonhon@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Pele too, everyone in the world knew who Pele was in his day

[–] Beautiful_Ad55@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maradona though wasn’t exactly what I call a „loved player“. Yes he was loved by the teams he played for, yes he was extremely famous, yes everyone was interested in him, yes everyone loved his style of play. But he wasn’t really loved as a person outside his country and his hardcore fans, he had kind of a crazyness and a theatralic and kind of narcistic „out of touch“ personality that wasn’t exactly liked by many regular soccer fans.

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maybe Maradona, but no way Beckham was as popular. I watched MJ in Africa before space jam and he retired before I was 10.

[–] GyantSpyder@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Peak Maradonna and Peak Jordan were not really contemporaries as players. Maradonna is 80s Jordan is 90s.

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[–] InternalAd2447@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

We loved him

[–] 20Keys2theHead@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Naaaah..... everyone "wanted to be like Mike" just for the hell of it

[–] ReflectionGloomy8851@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That wasn't about Michael Jackson? I always thought everyone wanted to be like the king of pop.

[–] tdl2024@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, there was a popular Gatorade commercial that sang "I wanna be like Mike", so the saying just refers to that.

Gatorade "Like Mike" Commercial

[–] Hurricane_08@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of my earliest basketball memories is watching Jordan demolish the Sonics in the finals. So no, I did not love him.

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[–] Enough_Lakers@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

He's the most popular player of all time. There were haters early on who said all he was a ball hog but by the end of his career pretty much only Utah and NYK hated him.

[–] dienxkalamb@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t think most Jazz fans hate him. Not sure about the Knicks. I’m a Jazz fan and vividly remember the two series against him. He beat our team in painstaking fashion but he wasn’t ever rude or demeaning about it. He and the Bulls were just better. I’ve never found him to be a “hateable” player.

[–] mylanguage@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I couldn't even really hate him outside of Knicks games, granted I was a kid but he still felt godly

[–] TheBottomLine_Aus@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's not one of. He is THE most popular player of all time. He is THE reason the NBA is a world wide league now. He was as big as the biggest popstars.

He basically pioneered sports stars in movies with one of the most popular kids movies of the 90s.

NFL is nowhere near as big around the world because of Michael. It's bigger inside of America, but outside it's the NBA.

[–] nomitycs@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The NFL isn’t as big partially because of the culture around the support and Michael, yes, but primarily it’s because no one plays it outside the US compared to basketball which is popular globally lol

[–] Beautiful_Ad55@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would add two other things why I think the NBA is more popular globally.

First: Basketball, while having a lot of rules, is an easy game in its basics. You have to throw the ball through the hoop. Everyone in the world understands that, so everyone can easily watch a Basketball game. American Football is more complicated, a lot of people outside the Us wouldn’t be able to tell what exactly a team has to do in a football game.

Second: Basketball is the most „individual“ team sport. It’s all about the special players, the superstars in the team. So the NBA is much more marketable with certain players, certain faces. Brand recognition. The NFL is more anonymous, more about teams than individuality, which makes it harder to market it in a new market, to make a connection with the people there.

[–] HeyItsChase@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Low barrier of entry is important in global sports. Soccer needs a ball and 2 thing. Any two things to be goal posts.

Basketball needs a hoop and a ball. It's not far off.

[–] Diqt@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Forget player, he’s the most popular ATHLETE of all time.

And one of the most popular people (anyone) of all time.

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[–] Jicama-Smart@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

imagine how much the crazies love trump, it was that x 1m. It would be like if Taylor Swift and Beyonce toured together.

[–] clonicle@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Liked & loved until he finally got past Detroit. If you were a general basketball fan, you continued to like/love him. Once he started dominating championships, and you were a fan of a team in his way, you were terrified of him.

Though the "Be like Mike" thing was very real and every kid was trying their best to dunk from the freethrow line, it wasn't the same kind of love that Curry gets today.

[–] Beautiful_Ad55@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, thats what I mean. You can try to emulate the game of a star player because you adore his game, but that doesn’t neccessarily mean that you love that guy as a person from a personality standpoint.

[–] bobittoknorr@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For real OP it can not be overstated how loved and popular mike was on a global level. There is a reason he was the guy for Space Jam. For some anecdotal evidence. Both my wife and I had actual MJ shrines in our bedrooms as teens. We are from Vancouver Island in canada. MJ and Steve Nash and then Vince Carter made the popularity of the game explode up here.

[–] Top-Crab4048@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let me put it this way for context. As a 5 year old in a 3rd world country, I knew who Michael Jordan was in the 90s. I didn’t know a single other basketball player as an immigrant in the USA for the next 7 years until I started playing basketball and actively following the NBA.

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[–] BetweenCoffeeNSleep@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We all loved him. Everyone understood that he was the best player in the world. We weren’t mad. We just accepted that we were all fans, no matter where we were from.

Except Pistons fans.

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[–] Hanhonhon@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Are you kidding me? He was a global superstar

[–] UpbeatFix7299@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I hated him as a kid because he was so dominant and I was sick of him winning all the time. But he was probably the most iconic global athlete since Pele, took the NBA to a whole new level

Dude was the most beloved athlete internationally of all time IMO. He transcended basketball and opened the door for modern day athletes in all sports to build their own personal brands. Obviously he got a ton of cushy media coverage and came up in the perfect era (no social media).

[–] noplaceinmind@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Feared.

You didn't like players that weren't on your team.

[–] TeTrodoToxin4@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Dude was huge in the 90’s. He put on the biggest show in the 90’s with the variety of things he would do in games on all ends of the floor. Popular pretty much everywhere. Basketball camps would teach how to shoot fade-aways like him.

I did not live where there were fans that were bitter about him destroying their teams though, so I’m sure he did have some negative reception some places. (Mostly Detroit and Utah)

[–] CrazyDaylight8@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I was at the point where I was almost bored with how good he was and liked to see him lose. I am guessing like how some people see Lebron now.

[–] _Meece_@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Beyond comparable to any other American sports star but maybe Tiger Woods and even then MJ outpaces him quite a bit.

The man was well known to people who had never even heard of the sport.

[–] KSchmuckley@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Everyone wanted a Michael Jordan White Sox jersey.

[–] impossiblecriminal04@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes I dream That he is me You've got to see that's how I dream to be I dream I move, I dream I groove Like Mike If I could Be Like Mike Like Mike Oh, if I could Be Like Mike Be Like Mike, Be Like Mike Again I try Just need to fly For just one day if I could Be that way I dream I move I dream I groove Like Mike If I could Be Like Mike I wanna be, I wanna be Like Mike Oh, if I could Be Like Mike

[–] TheOvercusser@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The dude got his own Michael Jackson video. Biggest individual music star ever, and MJ was featured.

https://youtu.be/JbHI1yI1Ndk?si=FE8ZoiJYcu9UZ_Fm

[–] tj_52@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

What a banger of a song. The ending is hilarious - great share!

[–] grumpy999@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I liked the pistons then. You can probably guess how I felt about Jordan

[–] flaman27@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Everybody I knew growing up loved MJ. It wasn’t just the winning, he had an aura about him that made you want to root for him. His passion for the game was intoxicating. It’s hard to explain If you weren’t there to witness it, but yeah, he was definitely loved by fans.

[–] minimalblackco@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Absolutely, NBA on NBC and Jordan. What a combo.

Silly question...

[–] Jaylinx@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Watch "The Last Dance" when he's getting out of his hotel to get on the bus and you'll see what insanely popular means.

[–] mkk4@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

As a person that watched Jordan win a National championship in college. As fans we loved and hated Jordan at the same time; because he was better than EVERY player on our hometown teams and he got the best whistle in the history of the NBA when he was already arguably the best offensive and defensive player in the league and the most athletic.

But no matter how you felt about Jordan you appreciated his game, style, talent and skill and RESPECTED and FEARED him as player, competitor and opponent.

[–] Stockton_Nash@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I'm a Pistons and Jazz fan -- couldn't stand him. But he is the GOAT and I have a lot more appreciation for what he was these days.

[–] No_Bullshyt@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

As a fan if the Dream back in the day,evryone tries to be Mike

[–] star_nerdy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Think of it this way, Jordan was so popular he retired and got to play in the minor leagues of another professional sport based purely on the fact that he was so beloved.

The moment he showed up in the minor leagues, he was popular with everyone else including the other teams because now their games would have more attendance.

There was some resentment by hardcore baseball fans because he “took a spot” from someone, but he did more for attendance and interest in a minor league team than probably any other minor leaguer ever.

Also, ESPN was hitting its stride in the 80s, we got to see highlights for basically his whole career, which can’t be said for a lot of earlier stars. He became a star at the right moment and had all the talent to back it up.

[–] dbinkowski@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Not Pistons fans. Everyone else? Yes.

[–] NoelVerDine@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I was born in '81, so I was just old enough to HATE MJ for ending the Pistons' run.
I can tell you it was very lonely hating the Jordan and the Bulls for all of the '90's.

[–] Southern_Walk679@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Basketball fans? EVERYBODY loved MJ.

That Buddhist tea-farmer grandma on top of a mountain in Sri Lanka without any contact with the exterior world? Yeah, she wanted to be like Mike too.

At one point, at the same time, both MJ's were the most famous and loved humans on earth.

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