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The Democrats are still playing old-school politics and it cost them the election. The Republicans have apparently given over to the oligarchs. A party that actually represents the working class could break the stranglehold that the two-party system has on us.

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[–] stickly@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

A new party did emerge, about a decade ago. Maga (rebranded as the former GOP)

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You young guys are so delusional when it comes to politics. Trump won a 1.5 pt margin and couldn’t even get most swing state senators over the hump (and 4 million ballots were purged). Republicans literally lost to Obama TWICE by 8-15 pts and never changed.

And no, some far left party will NEVER gain traction in this country, the far left continues to ignore the black community’s systemic issues and shields their reasoning behind “populism” and “the working class”. That’ll never attract the Dem’s base.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Black leadership has their heads so far up their own assess, they're a bunch of religious grifters. Get rid of the uncle Ruckuses.

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

What about the black voters?

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Being taken for granted by the dnc.

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

So why didn’t they vote for Sanders in 2016 or 2020?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you're going to split the vote and make someone lose, go split the Republican vote and make them lose.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Someone once told me MAGA was gonna do that. Now look at us.

Maybe its time to start the no-more-billionaires party.

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago

The far left could easily split the Republican vote. Just keep the same policies and but changed the rhetoric to be more right wing on cultural/social issues.

I think the more valuable things would be to do something like Grover Norquist and create a firm pledge that requires candidates to propose and or vote for ranked choice voting nationwide, Automatic voter registration, election holiday, capped private donations, removing corporate donations and loopholes, and maybe term limits.

Start with these pledges at the local and state levels and make it crystal clear that we will primary the shit out of anyone who won't sign or flips on their pledge.

So many of the issues with the current parties start because our elections are not fair or representative. If we fixed that it would push out the people only interested in power but not directly threaten either party or cause a spoiler effect.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really doubt that the same people who failed to get Bernie on the ballot in 2016, 2020, and 2024 are going to suddenly become savvy political operators now.

Every partisan in WW2 knew that the Americans and British were racist colonialists. They were still much better than the Nazis and Imperial Japan.

[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

A far left party primary would be comedy goal once the winner is announced, they’ll argue amongst themselves for months leading up to the election about how it was rigged.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Sounds like a great way to solidify fascist rule.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 3 points 1 day ago

The US already has a surfeit of third parties: the Libertarian Party, Socialist Party, Green Party and others more obscure. With first-past-the-post voting and the Electoral College, the most any of them can hope for is taking a few votes away from the party whose voters they appeal to most, and helping the others win, thanks to Duverger's Law. In reality, they’re usually so feeble that they end up as vehicles for cranks or influence operations (i.e. Jill Stein).

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 1 points 1 day ago

I've never seen a harder throw in my life. and then you see the party faithful all over the internet screaming "Protest Votes", like the percentage point of people with a moral conscience swayed the outcome at all, just so they don't have to confront their failures.

Hopefully when or if you rebuild from the ashes of the republic you don't go with another first past the post electoral system.

probably don't need a Senate either. just saying.

[–] Eeyore_Syndrome@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think 2024 funds for Mass pirates was $2,100 lol......