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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/26226188

cross-posted from: https://lemy.lol/post/39626252

We have to agree where we ARE before we stand a chance to agree about what we do from here.

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[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Blame anyone but yourself. That's the American way!

[–] Today@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Remove all overlay words and start with... LET'S TAKE AMERICA BACK TOGETHER!

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

First we have to agree with who we are taking it back FROM.

The ones who have bought the lies think it's the immigrants. The ones who know better realize it's the rich.

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[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We're in for the fight of our lives trying to rescue America, and I am willing to accept almost anyone as an ally, but the barebones minimum is that people who voted for Trump FUCKING DO HAVE TO FUCKING ADMIT THEY WERE FUCKING WRONG.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wait wait wait. So the people who support treating humans like they are disposable trash undeserving of rights if they dare stray from the very narrowly defined normative values are now okay because they changed sides? Fuck that. They still support violence against others and hate against the unknown. They are still undeserving of acceptance.

Supporting Nazis will make us all Nazis.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There's always these brainlet comments under this repost. Um, would you rather they stay Nazis so you can pretend to feel morally superior while not doing anything about it?

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

For many, the answer is "yes", because it's perfectly easy and incredibly comfortable. Why sacrifice the immediate gratification of what they're doing now with literally anything else.

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[–] h4x0r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

These people have cheered on the most heinous shit, you can't reconcile with that. The fuck?

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

"You don't have to admit you were wrong"

🤣

What an opener to appeal for unity, Jesus fucking Christ.

The American Left and Right are indistinguishable people apart from political views.

Imagine what y'all could achieve if the circlerks were united as one big fucking circlejerk. That's what Putin is blocking because GAWD DAMN was it effective in the last century.

But if unity can't be started until someone admits something they don't believe... Cool. Enjoy the dying years of your country, furled by stubbornness above all else.

I reiterate; The American Left and Right are indistinguishable people. Shouldn't that mean something for common ground sake? Shake fucking hands ffs

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The American Left and Right are indistinguishable people.

One side wants to make women second class citizens and make trans people stop existing. The other wants to protect those people's rights.

If you think the American left and right are indistinguishable, you are all sorts of ignorant.

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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You're not wrong, but "Our division is caused by those evil foreigners" isn't it.

We have our own oligarchs, whom are much more influential than any foreign entity and have just as much interest in keeping the working class divided and confused. One of them is the literal president.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 5 points 2 days ago

Country boys will be hot again once they burn those Trump flags.

They lied to themselves.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A popular older phrase...

"Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it."

If step one is to admit that they've been lied to, then step two has to have them admit that they were wrong in how they voted. Otherwise we'll go through this again, again, and again.

But that'll be a hard sell, as nobody likes to admit that they've been conned/taken advantage of. Thats human nature.

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[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Democrats can admit that Kamala is a shit candidate and maga can admit Trump is a shit president… it’s not that hard actually…

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Democrats can admit that Kamala is a shit candidate and maga can admit Trump is a shit president… it’s not that hard actually…

Admitting that a candidate is not good is different than admitting that you voted for the wrong person that's destroying the country (regardless of party).

Also, I've never heard a MAGA person say what you said they can say (italicized part).

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[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 0 points 2 days ago

Sure… but to put it into perspective democratic leadership was saying that Biden, who looked and sounded like he had dementia, was the greatest president since FDR…. They certainly need to bear responsibility for most of the fault of our current situation.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

You chose to listen to the ones who lied, and ignored the ones who warned

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Who the hell is going to be convinced by a patronizing image like this?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We’ve never said anything different. You’re just now realizing this.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's no small number of people on the left who'd rather say "I told you so" than "I look forward to working with you."

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

We did tell them so. For years. With graphs and charts and video evidence and circles and arrows pointing to the relevant parts.

We were constantly insulted and ignored for it.

Sure let’s work together. We’ll pretend it never happened.

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