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Let’s hear it! Give me your most unpopular opinions so far this season. I know this sub can be a hive mind echo chamber sometimes where people all arrive at certain assumptions and conclusions based on small sample sizes or bias’.

Here’s a few of my unpopular (to this sub) takes:

  1. RBs aren’t a “luxury” pick in the first round of the draft, you just have to accept that the pick won’t be as “long term” as other positions. Drafting guys like CMC, Travis ETN, Bijan, etc. aren’t “wastes” or “luxuries”. Those guys can really aid an offense, especially in the current era where we’re coming back around to ground attacks. The big issue is the second contract, but you’ll still have a stud weapon on the cheap for 4-5 years. More specially, I don’t see anything wrong with the Gibbs pick. People think he’s a bust or a waste bc he hasn’t been a 20-25 touch guy 6 games into his career… I think he can be a huge contributor for them for 4 seasons or so. If he helps them in big playoff games, then the pick is worth it, even if he’s not a guy who’s around for 6-10 seasons.

  2. A QBs ability to process info and remained poised is far more important than athletic ability. Everyone is looking for the shiny athlete like Josh Allen or Lamar, but honestly guys like Brock Purdy, Kirk, Goff, etc. are way more attainable and way safer. They can process info and deliver accurate passes. Obviously the gold standard is a freak athlete who’s an elite processor, but I think some teams try to find the athletes first then try to teach the mental aspect. While it’s true that you can’t teach athletic ability like Fields has, or the arm talent Wilson has, it’s not so easy to teach the mental component either.

What’re your guys’ hot takes and unpopular opinions?

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[–] SteadfastEnd@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

My unpopular take is that there is no such thing as referees throwing too many flags in a game, as long as each penalty is warranted.

Many fans say "there are too many flags!".......as if offensive linemen should be ALLOWED to get away with holding.

[–] emelbee923@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

People are far too impatient and expectant when it comes to the draft.

Not every player selected is going to have an impact, let alone have an immediate or lasting impact. But not everyone who fails to make a Pro Bowl or get named as an All-Pro or lead the league in something is a bust. Nor does a player not having immediate success as a rookie mean they cannot or will not ever be a productive, successful NFL player.

You see it mostly with 1st rounders, but there's some creep into the 2nd and 3rd round since you can find talent there.

The word "bust" gets thrown around pretty casually, too.

Tough to establish criteria, but a guy who has his body break down, shortening and hindering his career is different from a guy who sucked on the field, didn't put in the work and washed out before the end of his rookie contract.

[–] asbestosman2@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The first part isn’t a hot take anymore but Brock Purdy should never have even been in the MVP conversation- but neither should Tua, and idk if Hurts should either- I know it’s a QB award but if you’re not the most valuable player on your own team you shouldn’t be considered.

[–] indianm_rk@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I think the NFL should add another week to the regular season schedule and every team should get two bye weeks.

I thought they should have stretched the season out by adding the extra bye week instead of a 17th game anyway.

[–] throwawayjoeyboots@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The NFL is a terrible in person experience. It’s a game made for TV.

People are brainwashed into thinking it’s a good time and spending $300 dollars to sit in traffic with 66,000 other people in a mob scene parking lot. Half the season is miserably cold. There are countless tv timeouts and dead time where nothing happens. You don’t see replays or angles that you get on TV.

At least in MLB and the NBA/NHL the stadiums are designed for people to walk around and experience other things with cool bars and food options. NFL stadiums for the most part are soulless and generic.

[–] keenfrizzle@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Gambling makes you enjoy the sport less. Be a fan of a team, don't be a fan of potentially winning your 3-leg prop bet.

[–] bobthebobofbob@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think coordinated group celebrations for touchdowns is lame as hell. I'm all for a good spike or doing the Griddy, but I think it just looks so lame when it turns into a big group thing. It's the complete opposite of "act like you've been there".

Even worse is when the defense gets a celebration and he starts waving everyone over and the whole defense runs 50 yards down the field to do a group celebration or they pose for a picture together in the end zone.

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Players should have to apologize to the wronged party after they get an unnecessary roughness penalty.

If insincere they get 5 more yards added.

[–] anonymousscroller9@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

O- line doesn't matter at an individual level. Having the best left tackle and worst right tackle is the same as having two average tackles

[–] Sorta_jewy_with_it@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I hate the changes to player numbers. Offensively it doesn’t bother me as much, but I hate seeing a defensive player on any other team than my own, and trying to figure out what their position is.

Overall I think the randomness of the new numbering system looks dumb

[–] Bynnh0j@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Overtime should be one possession. No punts, no field goals. A touchdown wins the game, a defensive stop or turnover wins the game.

[–] JSRelax@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Using Super Bowl wins to evaluate QB greatness is an in effective metric in determining QB abilities. It does not have scientific merit as a good team is required to win Super Bowls.

Dan Marino is under appreciated because this. To win Super Bowl you need good coaches and respectable defense and a solid supporting cast on offense and special teams.

I’ll admit it’s difficult to win a Super Bowl with out good QB play …but not impossible.

[–] ElGuaco@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Fans who want your team to tank to get a better draft position are not true fans.

[–] kapate13@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Lamar is a better processor than Purdy, Goff, and Kirk, and has been since his second year. This take is so fucking tired. The guys you listed all have had great fucking weapons, that’s the difference

[–] elkabbanit@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The NFL isn’t rigged it’s just Greedy and Incompetent

[–] grandzu@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

If analytics say yes on 4 and 1, going shotgun makes it 4 and 5 so it's it still a yes?

[–] sophisticaden_@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

They should get rid of kickoffs.

Onside kicks should instead be one attempt from their own 25 with 4th & 25

[–] ScandalOZ@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Tom Brady as GOAT? Nah. He was very clutch and one of the greats but not the greatest.

There are QBs that had great seasons who had a lot less to work with than Brady, THAT is the metric for greatness imo.

[–] HikarW@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Pass interference should be called catch interference. Interfering with the pass is called a pressure.

[–] cooldaniel6@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You can’t just rank a QB based on wins alone. It’s a team sport and you need a complete team to win consistently. An elite qb can make up for a lot but they can’t win and lose games on their own.

[–] ReadyPatient3243@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Chiefs get hurt by penalties more than almost any other team and it's a bigger problem than our receivers. 2nd worst differential in the league.

[–] fffreak@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

None of what you said are unpopular opinions

Its becoming abundantly clear that even 1st round RBs aren't valued very highly in the NFL...

A QB being able to mentally process a defense being a very important skill has been a popular opinion since QBs were the focal point of the offense.

These are mild at best takes

[–] Fitz2001@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Get rid of pads and helmets.

[–] Herobrine2025@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

pass interference shouldn't be a penalty; yes, i know what the consequences of that would be

Get rid of video review entirely. Prioritize keeping it moving and watchable over getting it right... Bc they don't get it right now anyways constantly grinding the game to a halt for nothing

[–] arcaneanontiddy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The eagles won a free game thanks to the officiating this past Sunday. And everyone bitches that every team feels like they have been wronged by officiating. This was the most obvious, in your face it has been in recent memory. It was so particularly bad that it may actually ignite a change as betting integrity was tampered with, that's how bad it was. Evidence: https://youtu.be/IoQIUwi-mvc?si=U8Q_Pxe08xXG2wmK.

I don't think the NFL is rigging games, the officials are. The NFL had no reason to care before betting, as bad calls are controversial and entertaining, but too much of that ruins the magic of football. Officiating has to change or lawsuits are coming.

[–] CyberGuyCX5@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Regular season games should not end in a tie. At the end of OT, if it is still a tie, then it should be a kick-off between both team's kicker. Start with 50yd FGs, then move it back 2 yards if both make it. Do that until one makes it and the other misses.

[–] cheeseburgerpillow@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Tom Brady shouldn’t be allowed in the Hall of Fame 🤷‍♂️

[–] JohnnyOneLung@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are too many teams

The talent pool is too diluted

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[–] TheRealBlueBuffalo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

First round QBs should not start in their rookie year (at least in the first couple weeks). The sink or swim test happens to so frequiently and has ruined a lot of QBs whereas having one year to sit behind a veteran would be most beneficial to a team long term.

[–] Sjdillon10@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

QBs shouldn’t sign such massive contracts. It makes total sense why they get paid so much. But they need to understand that they’re killing the teams cap space. I think Rodgers contract was a big reason they couldn’t win again. And mahomes is struggling more this year than ever before

Kind of goes for all positions. If you sign a contract worth a good % of your teams cap. Don’t be shocked when the other 52 players aren’t as good

[–] pghgreatest@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Analytics suck

[–] dakinehair@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Urban Meyer bringing Tebow to the Jaguars was genius. (Maybe not purposefully)

Trevor was never put under the microscope that most top draft picks are because the only person sports pundits wanted to talk about was Tebow.

How was Trevor at training camp? Who the hell knows, but we do know Tebow had trouble blocking.

[–] dafinsrock@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Eli Manning is not a Hall of Famer. The only reason he's even in the discussion is because he was the quarterback who "beat Brady twice in the Super Bowl" aka put up 17 and 19 points in those two games while his elite defense dominated. He was never considered a top 5 player at his position at any point in his career, and has a career passer rating of 84.1. Put him in the Hall of Pretty Good for a Long Time.

[–] Ok-Imagination-2308@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The Manningcast sucks and is so boring. Peyton and Eli have no charisma or personality

[–] ShawshankException@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Drew Brees is number two for all time QBs, in my totally unbiased opinion. He's better than Peyton and I will die on that hill.

[–] bluntforce21@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

None of Eli, Big Ben, or Rivers belong in the Hall of Fame.

None of them were ever top three at their position throughout their careers. They have volume stats because the current era favors passing.

They were all consistently behind Brady, Peyton, Brees, Rodgers, and Mahomes throughout their careers. Newton and Ryan both put up MVP seasons too.

Big Ben won two superbowls in years he threw doe 17 TDs each. Why should those Superbowl wins help his case?

Eli's 2007 had 20 interceptions. Should two admittedly great playoff runs weigh more than 15 years as a slight above average QB when considering the HoF?

Same goes for Stafford, Ryan, Newton...

For 95% of cases you should have a minimum of 3 years as a top 3 player at your position to be in the Hall IMO.

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[–] OkayBoston@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gronkowski is the most dominant person to ever touch a football. not the best but the most dominant. Similar to Shaq in the NBA

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[–] bulltin@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

System is more important than talent for 90% of qbs and teams once a guy is nfl calibber.

If you don’t have a top 10 QB then just keep cycling guys in and out and making moves until you get one. We’ve all seen Purdy, Brady, Wilson, Kirk, Warner etc. come from nowhere and be top 10 QBs.

What is the point in playing a guy like Desmond Ridder?

The goal should be becoming a contender, to do that you need a QB who can move the chains when the other team knows you’re throwing the ball. Ridder can’t do it behind a good o-line and an elite running game against mediocre opposition. What’s the point of playing him? Bring in a backup, trade for someone, do anything else. Getting the 19th overall draft pick because Desmond Ridder scraped to 7-10 is not a good season.

Look at what’s happened to the Giants for embracing mediocrity at the QB position.

[–] Thebig_Ohbee@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Rex Ryan was a great coach, HOF quality. He got exceptionally unlucky with injuries, or else he would be wearing the ring others kiss.

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