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Heading into the season, there were a lot of talk about Lakers being contenders. People were even putting them into the inner circle with Denver and Phoenix. The main reasons as far as I can discern is that it's usual Lakers hype and the notion that they upgraded the roster. I have no idea how you can say that based on their moves.

From their playoff rotation last year, they retained Reaves and Rui. Reaves should get better and be the third option for them. Fine, that's cool. His contract is a steal. But Rui had 2 months of outlier performance. His contract is pretty big for someone who is as unproven as he is. It's still worth it, but expecting him to play like he did in the playoffs is a massive assumption. They replaced Schroder with Vincent. Which is a clear downgrade. I might be in the minority, but I think Dennis is a better player. There isn't significant difference between them in defense, shooting or their floor. But Schroder has a much higher ceiling and a more extensive track record. To me they got worse at that position.

Prince is an upgrade over Walker, but with some caveats. I think Lonnie has more of a potential to keep improving. He also could get points in bunches to swing a game. Also wings have a tendency to just one day become unplayable. That doesn't look to be the case with Prince, he is a great fit for them. But it's not a major upgrade. That's basically it. Reddish is a downgrade from Beasley, not that he will play when it matters. Hayes was a good punt, but again, the spacing will get dicey with him on the floor, so he won't play. Wood will get All-Star hype from Lakers fans before they start calling for Ham's head for not playing him as the season goes on. Happens to every fanbase.

This is all without mentioning the health concerns of their two stars. So what an I missing? What was it about the Lakers that got them this much hype? I always thought they would be fighting for 6 seed with about 8 other WC teams. The start of the season only reinforces that notion.

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[–] Good_NewsEveryone@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

It’s just semantics honestly. There are currently 4 contenders imo. Many outlets will pretend there are 6-8 for content purposes and many fans will buy into the hype

[–] bobbdac7894@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I think the Nuggets or Suns will sweep them. But they’re better then all the other Western Conference teams.

[–] Vexing_Pie@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Made WCF, best record after the deadline, only team with 2 (arguable 🤓👆) top ten players, one of the best two way players in the league

[–] Boomhauer_007@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Step 1: be in the Los Angeles market

Step 2: have LeBron

That’s it those are the steps.

[–] Rithgarth@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Media hype my guy.

The Lakers are not terrible or anything but their miraculous turnaround post ASB was built on an absolute cupcake schedule and great injury luck. (Yes the Lakers were also dealing with injuries)

Here is a list of the teams the Lakers beat post ASB

Warriors (No Steph)

The Mavs (A team that missed the playoffs)

OKC (No SGA)

Warriors again (Good Win!)

Grizz (No Ja)

Raptors (Good Win!, but a play-in team)

Pelicans (No Zion)

The Magic (Missed playoffs)

The Suns (No KD)

OKC (Good Win!, but a play-in team)

The Bulls (Good Win!, but a play-in team)

T-Wolves (Good Win!, but a play-in team)

The Rockets (Missed playoffs)

The Jazz (No Lauri, or other starters)

The Suns (No Booker, CP, KD, Ayton)

The Jazz (No Lauri, or other starters

Now for the playoffs

Play In T-Wolves (Good Win!, but a play-in team)

Round 1, (Grizz with no Ja or Steven Adams, Bane was also hurt, and I think someone else good was out as well)

The Warriors (Actually impressive)

The ONLY healthy playoff team they managed to beat post ASB was the Warriors (Which is funny because that's also what happened in the playoffs).

Now I am not saying the Lakers turnaround at the end of the year wasn't impressive, it definitely was impressive, but they beat ONE healthy playoff team from the ASB until the got dogwalked by the Nuggets.

[–] LoveIslandFansRawk@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

The Lakers made the Conference Finals last year while leaning on an injured LeBron. This year the team is arguably slightly better than that Conference Finals team, plus presumably LeBron won't be injured in the playoffs. There's no reason to think they're not in the mix with Denver and Phoenix for best in the West, although I personally would pick Denver over them pretty clearly still. They are a toss up with Phoenix and the Warriors are always challengers, altho they lost pretty convincingly to an injured LeBron, so maybe not against the Lakers

[–] ashep5@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Bro was too scared to post this on his main

[–] Accurate_Farm_5980@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago
[–] captain_ahabb@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

There's two players you didn't mention in your post