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pretty clear cut case, 100% offside and this is all in the intention of the rule /s
It's offside? Like it's like a millimeter off but offside is an offside it would be a wrong decision if it was given a goal
It’s more about the questionable accuracy from this computer rendered image and further more about how the frame to check the offside is decided.
What if they chose a frame too early or late, which could make the difference of being off- or onside in this case.
The original purpose of the offside rule is being completely dismantled.
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As long as the margin for error in the technology is within reason, works for me. I don't know if it can be calibrated to have a little leeway or whatever but it is what it is.
I'd rather live with the pointlessness of being offside by a cunt hair than have humans involved at all in objective matters.
If the technology is consistent and quick, I'll take it.
There's absolutely no way that it's precise enough to be able to call this tiny a margin
Been saying this for a while, but the offsides line should be a shoulder-to-shoulder bar drawn from both players, and if there's any overlap it should be onside.
Easily measurable, gives enough leeway and is drawn from center of gravity. It would eliminate garbage calls like this or where a foot brings a player offsides but gives no obvious advantage.
Calls like this are totally disingenuous and goes against the authenticity of the game, ESPECIALLY considering that both players were moving in the opposite direction of the goal...
But let’s be honest, such offsides as this one from keene are also an anomaly. Usually they are never as tight as this. So if the technology get’s it right 99.8% of the time and the other 0.2% is a mistake like this, i have nothing against it. Still way better them the enaglish VAR lines or on field referees.
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Idiotic. How do they even know they have the exact frame correct for when the pass was made?
These calls are getting ridiculous.
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The only thing that matters in these situations is the center of balance of the players and the part of the body which they use to control the inbound pass. But this, when both players are facing the opposite direction of the goal, is ridiculous.
That's just stupid
I mean....... lol?
Watching this with my Juventini cousins who are pro-var and they are fuming lmao
i mean you can be pro var and also pro common fucking sense too right
Would you let the goal stand?
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It’s so tough because the whole point of VAR in relation to offsides is to be able to determine if something is offside or it isn’t, which in 99%+ of cases you can see. There are these occasions where something is technically offside, like with a sliver of someone’s boot or a tiny part of their shoulder, but it doesn’t feel like it’s really in the spirit of the rule. In those cases though you can’t say that you’ll allow it because offside is meant to be a black or white decision, and if you let these minuscule infringements go you then need to decide where the line is again.
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This is not football anymore.
Oh, look at the "massive advantage" 0.5mm Kean got from this position.
Im the dude in the green shirt in the audience, sup guys
I think I got lost, this isn't my college lecture?
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I caught my wife in row 3 with her boyfriend when she was supposed to be out with her sister :(
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Thank God it was ruled off. How could the player possibly catch up to Kean after giving up such a head start? Thank you VAR for saving football once again.
Ranieri goal against you last year was even closer. Why are you complaining only now that it suits you?
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I like how it simulates the fans too lol
They don’t look nearly as flabbergasted as in real life fans were.
They look like they are in jury duty.
One of them has their legs crossed like they’re at a nice little evening party
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Long studs vs short studs
love that when it comes to other fouls there has to be a clear and obvious error and for offsides they have to go down to the exact millimetre
looks offsides
Maybe a dumb question, but what’s the margin of error for VAR?
For offside none. It’s either off or on. Wenger is trying to change it though so the attackers body have to be completely ahead of the defender to be counted as offside
They’re not asking if VAR allows the attacker any leeway in offside calls. They’re asking about the accuracy/precision of the technology in generating these images, the answer to which is that the margin of error hasn’t been publicly disclosed.
“Clearly” as he means it is subjective and adds more bias and uncertainty. It’s much better to be like this where it’s a simple >0.
Presumably though the error is statistically unbiased. Meaning if it could have been less offsides it could equally have been more offsides so in either case the result should stand unless you think it’s biased and within margin of error.
I hate it. Of course it's hard to draw that line between when this is ridiculous and when it's ok, but millimetres like this shouldn't be regarded as offside imo. Earlier there was a thing when close situations like this were pro-attacking and there was not that much pickiness about it
As you can all clearly see, offside technology has improved significantly.
there is a subatomic microscopic particle from his heel which is offside.
With VAR being so exact by the pixel. I think rule needs to change for a least a foot or something.
This is insane. Players play the line all the time and this much hairsplitting effectively stops that since there’s zero margin. There should be some flexibility
Which one is Kean and which one is Cryptocom?
Are they showing the frame where the ball is released too? Madness that.
That's like a cm😭
Very unlucky for Kean and Juve, but there’s no argument to be made here. Offside is offside.
VAR and the modern offside calls are honestly killing all excitement in football. Make a run into the box basically 50/50 if it’ll stand. Implement the Arsène Wenger rule or just scrap this one atom of the attacker is offside nonsense.
Oh fuck off what is this nonsense 😂😂😂
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