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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/27423053

[Video] ICE arrests PhD student

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[–] remon@ani.social 93 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

Complaining about bans for posts on lemmy.ml is like complaining about birdshit on your car when parking under a tree.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 57 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Friendly reminder that we can FOIA first and last names of every ICE employee and their salary, and position/title.

Every last one of them.

It's a good and legal public list just waiting to be collected nice and legally, and shared with the taxpayers as per our still existing rights.

[–] FrostyTrichs@crazypeople.online 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This assumes the department or people involved with fulfilling these requests hasn't already been compromised or shut down. The request means nothing when it never gets looked at.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Ultimately, this would come down to the judiciary. They (ICE) could stonewall all they want. Those documents are on file, and you better believe the judiciary will exercise every ounce of strength they've got in producing them.

It might get delayed unduly for quite some time, but those names are the public's. Not a damn thing any person who decided to accept the job can do about that to stop the public.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

They’re right. I’m not defending the ban, but it is political. This is why MAGA elected Trump.

ICE is following Trump’s orders, which are an unconstitutional violation of the Fifth Amendment. When the Alien Enemies Act was used during WWII, even the Nazis had due process before being deported.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

ICE's actions are political.

Discussing ICE's actions is not necessarily political, unless you consider human rights violations to be necessarily political as a topic.

Silencing discussion of human rights violations implies tacit support for the action, so I guess we know now where .ml stands. Any claim of leftist ideology on their part is a sham, they just have a hard-on for authoritarians.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Of course its political, what else would it be? You are talking about peoples rights (a political concept) being breached by an administration (poltical) using an arm of the government (political) as a paramilitary force (political).

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[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Also, the community we're in has a rule against moderation complaints, so I would really crosspost to !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nothing says "we are a free and open community that welcomes others" like moderators banning discussion of poor moderation.

Yes, I do understand what the rule is there for. No that doesn't make it any less hilariously shitty.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

I prefer !fediverse@lemmy.zip , just for the non delay with aussie.zone https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40460535

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Thx. I saw the rule. @ mods I’m fine if you want to remove this.

I think federation needs to be better explained possibly here either with a sticky or sidebar. And a diagram of who we are federated with and not that’s live updated would be helpful too.

Thanks for all the work you guys do

[–] FrostyTrichs@crazypeople.online 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

At the bottom of the page on every Lemmy instance there's a link that will show you the instances it's federated and de-federated from. Look for the link labeled 'Instances' from a web browser. Here's the link for lemmy.world that your account is on-

https://lemmy.world/instances

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ty. That stuff should be available in mobile clients too. It could definitely be better visually represented and contain a reason and a defederated since date or more.

Also an explanation that addresses my other example about downvote brigading a tertiary instance.

[–] FrostyTrichs@crazypeople.online 7 points 2 weeks ago

I agree.

Lemmy is still finding its feet and I think things like this will improve as it continues to grow and mature.

While Lemmy has been around since before the reddit drama, many of the large surges in users have been reddit refugees. As a result a lot of the apps we have are ports of reddit apps that the devs slapped together in a hurry to let users pivot to Lemmy. As time passes we're seeing a number of new apps pop up with Lemmy specific features, and some of the older apps are still/finally being updated to be more feature rich.

The software Lemmy runs is also changing fairly rapidly so there's some feature disparity between the webui and the various apps. Part of the normal growth process for a younger social media imo, but frustrating at times.

[–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

HOLY SHIT. I'd never perused that list before, so I had NO idea how many unsavory instances were out there, thankfully blocked here.

  • childpawn.shop?
  • childlove.su??
  • pedo.school???
  • rape.pet??? which fucking runs the "incestoma" software??

WTF is wrong with people?

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

That's the kind of content instance admins are and need to be concerned with on the topic of defederating instances. However most of the time it's over whether some user in a shitposting thread was unfairly moderated.

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[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Since when does lemmy.ml ban political content? Is it on a specific community?

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 weeks ago

Also looking at the mod log it looks like OP is lying to generate outrage and anti-tankie bait. I'm shocked I tell you!

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They only ban content that criticizes authoritarianism.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 8 points 2 weeks ago

Yep, it's very much "rules for thee but not for me" at .ml

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[–] Cargon@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

I'm on .ml and I've seen this video several times now.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Why are you posting on ML in the first place?

It's a tankie cesspool with instance-wide rules for white-washing genocide.

There are a few normal communities, but more and more of the normal ones are moving off of ML.

[–] shortrounddev@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

.ml should be defederated from lemmy.world tbh

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There are still many non-tankie, normal tech communities on ML though.

I am seeing a slow tendency to move off ML.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago
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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Can you cite where you posted this and what the reason for removal was?

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[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

I can't see evidence that it's banned. I'm on .ml and can see it just fine. It would be in the modlog if it were banned.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My guess is someone is afraid thinking about this content might threaten their politics.

[–] airportline@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

Knowing what I know about the politics of the .ml admins, this doesn't make any sense unless it was removed by a community moderator.

[–] Oisteink@feddit.nl 5 points 2 weeks ago

Does it even fucking matter what’s banned in what echo chamber??

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago

Politics: the activities of the government, members of law-making organizations, or people who try to influence the way a country is governed

All the comments against the decision i have seen on this post argue why the rule should be bypassed, not why this respects the rule

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